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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s an object permanence thing. “If I can’t personally see the taxes, they don’t exist!”

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Are the taxes in the room with us?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

You can then use the tariff revenue to give the billionaires a tax cut and make the common people pay for it in the form of rising cost of living. And the rubes will be blaming the foreign companies for the price rises.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I have noticed that they aren't talking about lower taxes at all anymore (except for the wealthy, that never changes).

If we ever have an election again (I doubt it, frankly), the Dems need to constantly slam the Republicans as historic tax increasers.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The latest taking point is "with all the tariff money, they'll do away with income tax".

The first time I heard that, I rolled my eyes so hard that it hurt.

There was a time once where the country did function like that but international trade barely existed compared to now so its not easily comparable.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/senate-republicans-trillions-tax-breaks-spending-cuts

It’s trillions of dollars in tax breaks to give to the wealthy. They hide it behind spending cuts or pittances for the poor. The working class will pay for this for decades if they even survive and if there even is a working class beyond neofuedalism. Hypercapitalism rigged the system so that the science of marketing on social media was used to convince a whole bunch of them that this was good for them. The neolibs and accelerationists are getting exactly what they wanted

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Probably will forever be a class doing the work

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Aren't they also raising taxes tho too

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It is a good move.

Tax everything that way.
It isn't property tax, just a utility fee based on the size and value of a building.
It isn't an income tax, but a fee added when money leaves the account of a corporation.

Edit: I am not arguing for a flat tax. I am sarcastically proposing we call all taxes something else.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah this is too close to a flat tax rate or a consumption tax which the ultra rich always push for because you only get taxed if you spend money.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Thats not what theyre saying. Theyre just saying "dont call it a tax, call it a fee" because that seems to be ok. Hence why the property example was a fee based on size and value. It's not flat.

[–] an_onanist@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

It's a sales tax on everything produced or with raw materials from outside the US

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is this sarcasm? I'm asking sincerely, because it sounded like you're advocating for flat taxes.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Theyre not advocating flat tax, theyre advocating changing the name. "Its not a tax, its a fee." That fee can still be proportional

Okay, I get it now. Still, I'm not a big fan of proportional fees. What if we went with fractional charges instead?