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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We need to stop natural gas too. All carbon extraction and burning must cease.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

I can't imagine anyone sane wanting this. There are some innovations that I can see people wanting to roll back, but not this one.

Unless you own a coal mine, or are owned by someone who owns a coal mine, this is stupidity from any angle.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Not to worry, he'll just replace those expensive professional miners with free slave labor. Salvadoran gulags can only hold so many, after all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

"You move 16 tons and what do you get?"

Trump: I like it when the peasants get further in debt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only people who want this are West Virginians. Their entire economy is, and has been, so invested in coal that it's a 3rd world country up there. Watch some of Peter Santenello's videos, but you may cry like I did.

Who wants a coal plant?! Even conservative areas will scream NIMBY! NW Florida is as conservative as it gets and we're going mad with solar farms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was invested in coal. Then there were technical improvements which let mine owners replace people with equipment. So coal mining is now a fairly minor source of employment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Somewhat related: I recently took a tour through the now-defunct local coal plant. Before 1990, there were 4 teams of 20 people each running this single coal plant.

Right now, just 4×5 people run power generation for the entire city (mostly fossil gas, but also some solar, wind and a large battery), although actually the plants are designed to work safely for 72h without manual intervention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

You absolutely shouldn’t do this, but one Japanese operator was caught running a nuclear plant where the only people on the night shift were cleaners, who hadn’t even been told what their radiation badges were. They got a minor fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's about fetishization of harm, not anything resembling good policy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Let’s make Mercury Ingestion Great Again!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Modern coal mining is a lean operation, not like the days of Blair Mountain and company towns and "coal country." We're talking about maybe tens of thousands of jobs, not millions, and we're considering fucking over our entire biosphere to get there.

[–] SplashJackson 0 points 1 day ago

Coal is still around? Where?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Who convinced Trump that coal is worth going back to and what false data/logic did they use?

I didn’t even know coal companies made enough money to lobby, anymore.