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Btw, I use Arch (via EndeavourOS*) (lemmy.ml)
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Hopefully this kind of post isn't too tired, but I figure it's my turn:

Finally decided to, after absolutely refusing to upgrade to 11, make the jump from Win10 to Linux! Been hopping around distros a bit and landed on EndeavourOS last night and I'm really enjoying it so far.

It's definitely tinkery and took me like 2 hours just to get my push to talk working in Discord (mostly due to my own lack of knowledge), but I love the level of control of everything you have (was on Pop!_OS before ~~๐Ÿคฎ~~, edit: no hate, just wasn't for me!)

There's definitely never been a better time to switch and I'm very excited for when I inevitably brick my shit and come back here for help, so thanks in advance everyone! :)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

EndeavourOS is great. It's as bare as you can get without opting for straight Arch. I bit the bullet on vanilla Arch a couple weeks ago, though, and am amazed at how easy it is to set up now.

Bonus: I can follow the Arch Wiki word for word without having to cross check things.

But I loved my time with EOS. I would probably still be using it if I hadn't decided to fuck around with topgrade while having no idea what I was doing. The lesson of the day was just update normally... its built in for a reason.

Edit: Look up Timeshift and ALWAYS back up personal files to external. There's a reason Arch is notorious for being unstable. Sometimes just an update can bork everything (still very rare, though).

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't hate on pop. They have done nothing wrong, at most it didnt sit you right

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree, edited post. Was meant as a joke, clearly wasn't in good taste and I apologize. It's pretty solid, just not for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I appreciate the edit ๐Ÿ‘

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

I've been hopping between different distros since 2023, but every time I come back to EndeavourOS, this distro seems to work the best for me, haven't had any problems with this distro.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That's amazing! Why shit on Pop!_OS though? I've always liked it. I think it's definitely more stable than Arch in the long term

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, it seems really stable and works great, I just hate how...hand holdy it felt for me personally. I think the emoji was a little over the top. My apologies, haha. It's totally fine for what it is, and if it works for you, that's fantastic!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't love the aesthetic of Pop OS out of the box but with a minimal set of GNOME extensions I really like it. Which actually, is the case for me on vanilla GNOME too.

I'd like to be an Arch person, but on the only device I've used it on, I've had some major breakages happen a couple of times. Took months for the issues to get resolved. Which honestly, as hard as software is, let alone OSes, is a great track record. Most teams could only keep stability specifically with these long/major release schedules like everyone else essentially does it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Right now, I still have Windows as dual boot in case things go sideways or I run into road blocks with work, but my plan is to move all of that to a VM in the near future (and ideally an actual work supplied machine with a KVM eventually). At that point, I could see myself falling back onto something like Pop!_OS as a stable side install if/when my main OS is having issues and I just want to play a game and not bash my head against a console for 5 hours.

Sorry to be so seemingly unfair to Pop OS, what it does it does do quite well, just not for me as a main driver.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Gotcha. I don't think you are being unfair.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

yeah; I also use Pop!_OS and like it. I'm curious about the reasoning here

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I don't think I've really seen it hated on much

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The only thing I don't like about it is being behind on gnome since their DE is a forked older version of gnome afaik. Especially for recent gnome extensions, it's not always the most amenable. But mostly even on that front it's workable

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Arch is plenty stable

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's very stable for what it is. But I still had it break remote desktop, wifi functionality, and something about graphics that caused weird glitches in Firefox. These issues all took months to fix, each. For most tech savvy people it's probably stable enough but for the less common hardware, the only reason I could keep using and updating it was by leveraging timeshift. I would update everything, test if my issue was solved, see it still present then rollback. I did that process dozens of times.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I have never had anything in Arch take months to fix. One tip I would have is to use both the latest kernel and an LTS. If something โ€œbreaksโ€ with a kernel module, just boot into LTS and it is probably fine there. I also had an issue with WiFi for about a week but a quick reboot into LTS and I was good to go immediately. When I tried the latest kernel two weeks later, it had been fixed there. Something similar happened with my FaceTimeHD camera. Same solution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Hmm, I'm not aware of those tracks or how they work. I only really was able to install arch from a specific guide because the device is a raspberry pi 5

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

EndeavourOS club! Gorgeous blend between granular control and reasonably configured initial guardrails for a willing-to-learn new Arch user.

I played around with other distros too, before settling into this one. Havenโ€™t looked back after 2-3 years of use.

[โ€“] ColdWater 2 points 12 hours ago

Welcome aboard, I also first started with beginners friendly distro (around 1 years ago), Fedora is my first ever distro then I started distro hopping and landed on vanilla Arch, that's what I'm stick with until now

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Welcome to your GNU/Linux jounery.

Before you distro hop again, take your time exploring the os and terminal it will make installing the real arch linux easier.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (18 children)

EndeavourOS is the real Arch, with some additional repos and some sensible defaults.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

No hoping needed anymore once you landed on a Arch base!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I agree, but I must say that with the Archinstall script it's a breeze nowadays.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

helpful if you want to install arch without endeavor โ˜ž Archfi and Archdi - Two bash scripts for Arch Linux Installation by OldTechBloke

somebody on lemmy regularly posted videos of OldTechBloke while they're archiving the channel on peertube.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Interesting. I made the equivalent of this for installing Arch on raspberry pi 5. Maybe I should make them public.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

DistroTube has a similar project going as well, DTOS. I'm not sure if it's actually up and available but it looks promising for a similar target audience. https://youtu.be/FA__ScVhGQA

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Why use this instead of just archinstall? I've been using Arch for many years but I have used archinstall for at least the last few years and it always goes smoothly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've always sworn by Arch builds. Built one up from scratch back in college ten years ago, and this past winter I decided I wanted to try a linux box again. After a bit of distro hopping I settled on CachyOS, but Endeavor caught my eye too.

Shit breaks, but fixing it is a learning experience. Small price to pay in exchange for the customization it offers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Shit breaks but when it does there is a well documented wiki to help you fix it rather than multitude of vaguely related ubuntu forum posts

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Ugh I still run Ubuntu LTS on my living room HTPC, and generally it's fine. But on the occasion I need to fix something, I swear every seemingly relevant forum post is from 2015 or earlier. It's maddening.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I test-ran EndeavourOS for a future PC and like it. I am a Steam gamer though, so my work's cut out for me in getting it to work on whatever hardware I choose.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

You just have to install steam, haha. I got CS2 up and running in 10 minutes ๐Ÿ˜

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Steam works absolutely perfectly on EndeavourOS. No tweaking or anything required, just install and run. It also runs just about any game I ever tried, with troubleshooting as easy as choosing a different version of Proton from the dropdown.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Another confirmation that Endeavour is great with Steam. However I did have to follow the Arch wiki to install the correct Mesa drivers on my new PC (Radeon RX 7800 XT), as without those the GPU performance was crap.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Can confirm EOS works beautifully with Steam and has done for all the years I've used it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

If you were a non-steam gamer you'd have a little extra work cut out for you, but steam literally runs natively

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