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How will you know ?
If you can't tell; does it matter? I imagine the rule is there to filter out noise.
For this community specifically I somewhat answered your question in this comment chain.
TLDR: we won't probably always know. We trust that this rule is a clear guideline and hope people read rules before posting.
I want to mention I'm personally not against AI generated content, and don't know why so many people seem against all forms of AI, especially when it comes to images, but i am against wrong information and low effort crap so it will just say you do you feddit.uk and good of our community to follow the instance.
I'm against it because of the questionable ways AI gets trained (stealing art or books for example) and also because of the environmental impacts.
With the unethical training habits and energy consumption from megacorps, in addition to just being brain-killing slop, AI generated content should have no place in social media. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorcerer%27s_Apprentice
Yeah my main interest in this community is the topic, and thankfully this doesn't really affect this community dramatically since the content that people post is generally not related to AI.
And anyway, good to have clear guidelines. There are plenty of communities where the focus is AI (or anti-AI) and for feddit.uk users who want to participate still can (the ban is about communities hosted on feddit.uk, they are not defederating or banning AI on remote communities).
I think living in a democracy (and I consider this also as one, dispute there not being elections) is accepting I don't make the rules. And in that case I rather have clear rules I disagree with than vague rules that give me a desire to argue about my interpretation of them all the time.
Also good that we follow the instance, since that means that if people have a problem with a certain rule than there is a set place for that discussion and we as a community can be free of arguments about them. Plus if I want to try and change a certain rule, I know where I need to direct my time and energy to.
Thank you for announcing it, I never noticed any AI generated content here, but still better safe than sorry
Yeah it seemed like community had some thoughts about it and better to have a clear entry about that in the sidebar.
First community to actually do something about this ๐
How would you know if an answer has been AI generated without checking every answer in various AI apps or sites?
@[email protected] already gave the perfect answer in a reply to you, but in general some content is just clearly AI generated and we didn't have a rule about that before.
I'm not going to be trigger happy and label every suspected post as genAI and I don't have enough resources to check. This is mostly to give people posting here guidelines as to what is acceptable.
The post that triggered this discussion in this community was not hiding the fact that it was AI and also OP wasn't acting in bad faith - they even stated that "the posting rules didn't prohibit AI content", which is fair enough.
You're right you can't, but if there is a rule you have clarity beforehand instead of arguments after.
oh why?
The rule has been added because communities have to follow the rules of the instance they are hosted on and feddit.uk (buyeuropean is hosted on feddit.uk) has introduced this rule.
If they had not introduced it we would have had to have a discussion about genAI rule anyway on this community, because it was a controversial topic as we saw on an earlier post here.
because LLMs can't differentiate what's facts and what's fiction, which is quite important when trying to determine the origin of a product? and because AI generated content is, most of the time, low effort garbage?
What about if the text on an image is factual but the accompanying stock photography is just an AI generated one? what's the harm and/or who cares?
if you use an AI-generated header for your article, then I'm going assume the text has been AI-generated, too. and I'm not going to bother reading something that no one could be bothered to write.
In that case the rules should be a) no wrong information and b) no low effort garbage, if you ask me.
so "no AI-generated content", but with more words
This reply was first written by me, using the spellcheck and auto-complete features of my keyboard, and then run through an LLM to optimize it for readability with explicit instructions to not change the tone. It does not contain any incorrect information, and is obviously not low effort, however per the rules this comment should not be allowed.
Even then, AI models (be it text or image) are generally unethically trained (i.e. without consent of the authors/artists of the training material) and have a significant energy consumption, even for single prompts.
And I do have to ask: To what degree is running your comment through an LLM actually beneficial? You say it improved readability, but how unreadable was your original comment actually, that it would require fixing via external tool?
I get your sarcasm, but since I believe your comment holds a serious conviction I want to ask: have you never seen lawbooks? Clarity is good, but not at all costs.