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An AI avatar made to look and sound like the likeness of a man who was killed in a road rage incident addressed the court and the man who killed him: “To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me, it is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances,” the AI avatar of Christopher Pelkey said. “In another life we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness and a God who forgives. I still do.”

It was the first time the AI avatar of a victim—in this case, a dead man—has ever addressed a court, and it raises many questions about the use of this type of technology in future court proceedings. 

The avatar was made by Pelkey’s sister, Stacey Wales. Wales tells 404 Media that her husband, Pelkey’s brother-in-law, recoiled when she told him about the idea. “He told me, ‘Stacey, you’re asking a lot.’”

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it would have been about as respectful to use the corpse as a puppet and put up a show for the court with it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trial at Bernies? OK WERE DOING TRIAL AT BERNIES! This is going to be legend-wait for it....

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I really don’t get how this is allowed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Watched the video, it is creepy. It is also edited. Wife seems to just have put words on her dead husband's AI.

This has not set a legal precedent. WTF.

[–] phoenixz 159 points 6 days ago (4 children)

To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me, it is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances,” the AI avatar of Christopher Pelkey said. “In another life we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness and a God who forgives. I still do.”

I find this nauseatingly disgusting and a disgrace that this was shown in a court of all places.

No, this man does not believe in forgiveness or a God because he's dead. He never said this, somebody wrote this script and a computer just made a video off it with his likeness.

Fuck everything about this, this should be prohibited

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

"Hi, I'm Manifish_Destiny speaking to you from beyond the grave. I'm happy to say that even though I had some skepticism of AI avatars and even put something about that in my will, I just didn't understand its potential to embody my true self. But now I do, so you can disregard all that. Come to think of it, you can disregard the rest of the will as well, I've got some radical new ideas..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This wasn't testimony, it was an impact statement.

Impact statements are wild and crazy and this isn't surprising in anyway

[–] phoenixz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, this wasn't an impact statement either.

This was a huntch of pixels moved around by a huge wasteful amount of CPU power. The actual victim is dead, he can't talk and people are putting words in his mouth and it shouldn't be allowed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It was literally in the article explaining that this was presented as the victim impact statement.

Have you learned nothing about modern "news" ? Dont be part of the problem of spreading misinformation, be diligent and responsible. And ita okay to make mistakes, own them and move forward. Its not easy to get your information correct everytime, theres no shame in that, only in ignoring your responsibility to self correct voluntarily when you find out

Peace be upon you, we need to work together, because even though I'm calling out the inaccuracy in your comment, i do believe using this technology for this purpose is heinous

Edit: from the NPR article as its not paywalled

But the use of AI for a victim impact statement appears novel, according to Maura Grossman, a professor at the University of Waterloo who has studied the applications of AI in criminal and civil cases. She added, that she did not see any major legal or ethical issues in Pelkey's case.

"Because this is in front of a judge, not a jury, and because the video wasn't submitted as evidence per se, its impact is more limited," she told NPR via email.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Honestly, all she's done has created history's most gaping opportunity for an appeal.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This judge needs to be disbarred and have a forced mental evaluation.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The fuckin’ dude’s wife wrote the speech the AI read… I don’t care how much you know someone, putting words in their mouths like that feels wrong. And the fucking judge added a year to the sentence citing the power of the video.

Fucking absurd.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Yeah, this is super fucked up. I think that it would be powerful and completely reasonable to have the AI read actual words he wrote, like from old text messages, emails, or whatever. That is a legitimate way to bring someone to life—completely ethical if they wrote the material. This is a disgrace to justice and ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I thought it was his sister who wrote the speech the AI read, but yeah, this whole thing feels wrong and gross.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I get killed and my family forgives the killer on my behalf I am haunting their asses so hard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

especially if an AI ghost of you was used to exonerate the killer.

then it's your ghost VS an AI ghost

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I found this interesting. The AI said it believes in forgiveness.

"To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me, it is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances," the AI Pelkey says. "In another life we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness, in God who forgives, I always have. And I still do."

But the victim's sister, who created the AI did it to try to get the maximum sentence for the defendant.

The prosecution against Horcasitas was only seeking nine years for the killing. The maximum was 10 and a half years. Stacey had asked the judge for the full sentence during her own impact statement. The judge granted her request, something Stacey credits—in part—to the AI video.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

Yeah, a way to play both sides of pushing for a harsh sentence whole you use a puppet to drive empathy...

Should have been a slam dunk without the video.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I could see this being used in retributive justice to help humanize victims to perpetrators but it should really be a private thing and not a means of getting a confession or shaming the perpetrator further

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

"getting a confession"? more like straight up fabricating

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"gampa, did it hurt when you died?"

Hey there, buddy. That’s a big question! When people get very old or very sick, their bodies sometimes get tired, like a toy that slowly stops working. Normal people might go and buy a new toy from Amazon with all their great prices and exceptional customer service but your old gramps couldn't do that. When it’s time to go, it’s usually peaceful—like falling asleep after a long, fun day on a nice comfortable Saatva bed. I don’t think it hurts, because our bodies know how to let go gently. What’s important is all the love and happy memories we share. You can even go back and look at all our wonderful memories from the good people at Instagram. And even when I’m not here anymore, that love stays with you forever. Would you like to send some of those memories to your local Walgreen's to print?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Omg I hate this so much fuck you

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz 7 points 6 days ago

Please stop talking, please

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Ha, genius. So true as well, this is the inevitable result of personalised ads. A video of your dead Grandmother popping up saying: "I sure did love big brand hazelnut chocolate. Celebrate my birthday tomorrow and buy a bar for you and the whole family."

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago

This is basically "Weekend at Bernie's", using the likeness of a dead man as a puppet.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago

This is some perverse shit

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

nope. nope nope nope! Fuck this. I wanna go back to 2002 with Cortana whispering in my ear about fleet chatter and being optimistic.

That's not the world that unfurled though, and LLM's are not AI.

This marketing hype regurgitation machine "learning" can all go eat shit. All of it. Soooo done with the simps saying "oh but this application of the tech totally justifies burning down forests and guzzling water and power and totally wasnt trained on stolen, socially prejudice datasets"

Fuck that noise and while we're at it I'm entirely turned off by AAA media trends and current gen hardware too. Don't @ me, fuck a smartphone I've got a DS.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

I like AI, sort of. But this is ghoulish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The estate of Ronnie James Dio and Wendy Dio have entered the chat.

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