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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (26 children)

I was reading George Orwell’s hommage to Catalonia the other day and was just shocked by how brutal this was.

For context Orwell served in the POUM (anti-authoritarian marxists) in the spanish civil war against the facist-conservative-feudalist camp. However over time the liberal bourgeoisie and the Stalinist side of the republic (anti-facist forces), allied themselves together and started brutally repressing the Anarchist and Anti-Stalinist Marxist Factions. They basically handed the victory over to the facists by purging the left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The testimony of Paul Robeson before the HUAC, after he was snitched on by George Orwell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFjjaFNHKo

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, at least they're up front about it. If a Nazi is breathing, they're lying, but I've had commies straight up tell me that I'd get the bullet too.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, came here to say the opposite. Communists will talk about left unity until they have enough power to get rid of their "friends"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I already posted this elsewhere in the thread but i case it hasnt been seen yet, I think this illustrates your point well

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, friends with reds. Do all the hard work for them lazy asses to be backstabbed in the end.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The reds where I live come to rallies to recruit people into a very cult like group that constantly demands money from it's members, to sell expensive tickets to meetings and their newspaper, even when we make a point to say no stalls are welcome and to not profit off of our work. They're very icky and I feel very bad for the students they recruit because they get all the flack for being duped.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah we have those people too unfortunately.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

This thread:

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

The People's Front of Judea vs the Fucking Judean People's Front

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fuck leftist unity, if leftist unity means sacrificing the revolution for some some tyrant to twist class consciousness into a "dictatorship of the proletariat" im not playing along.

DEATH TO REACTION, DEATH TO DECEIT, DEATH TO TYRANNY

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Left unity is a lie to use anarchist labor into making their own graves when the state-based socialists get into power.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the problem of left unity is a symptom capitalism. Models of anarchism, communism, and socialism have wildly differing systems of social relations, organizing, governance, economics, etc. Even the sub-models in each of these categories have vast differences. But in our political discourse they're all compressed into the same box of the "left", because our prevailing system so dominates the narrative that these other systems are all erroneously viewed through a lens that presumes private property and redistribution of wealth vs no redistribution of wealth as the dividing line. Nevermind the hypocrisy of "redistribution of wealth," as corporations are speedrunning to unjustly pump virtually all forms of wealth into their coffers.

I remember when I was young and dumb and finding myself fascinated by the Venus Project and Zeitgeist Movement. The basic idea seemed so elegant and promising to me: we can use technology to solve our problems, to use technological progress to obsolete scarcity itself!. I tried to chat with people about it, and on more than one occasion somebody would just shut the conversation down with, "But that's socialism." That was the first time I realized something was very broken in our discourse, because it was like, yeah kind of technically, but it's also something very different from what we normally think of what socialism is.

That's kind of what a lot of these labels are, ultimately. Thought stopping cliches.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does the movie actually have a social democratic Koala bear, or not?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not true. The left are always fighting. Always disagreeing methods. If the left would be one strong front we would actually achieve something and fight nazis better.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The problem is trying to group vastly different ideologies such as Marxism and anarchy as one "left". You can't reduce political/social ideologies to a one-dimensional slider. Maybe if you project them on an axis that represents some "issue" they might fall close to each other, but they can also be at the opposite ends depending on how you choose that axis.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx was pretty anarchist compared to most people these days who call themselves marxists.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Most people who call themselves Marxists haven't read more than quotes of his work.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, Uncle Makhno, we will give you the bullets you wanted to defend against the Whites. Shoots the black brigades in the back

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

When I was an anarchist during the Bush years I remember telling an exceptionally crunchy gutterpunk they could use a shower. They accused me of being a Nazi telling them I wanted them to go to the gas chambers. They were then in a grant writing class I took the following summer.

I see this kind of dynamic playing out quite often in online debates about leftism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

Yeah, what's a little authoritarianism between friends?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Can we focus on the common enemy for now? Can we all agree that of there is going to be a repeat of a dynamic from 100 years ago, it isn't likely going to happen real soon? Just seems like a waste of energy at this point of political reality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Anarchists and State Communists do not have the common enemy as both have many differing enemies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Fascists and capitalists? Those are the enemies I see right now, and it is going to take a lot more revolutionary energy (and time) to defeat them. I am someone with a foot in both Anarchism and Communism. I'm not "choosing a side" in some fight that we will only get the chance to have after we defeat capitalism! I've got criticisms and admirations for how both types organize, but I can't stand seeing people waste their energy tearing down comrades when there's actual work to be done.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Tankies are not that honest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I wish it was this but instead its constant infighting. Btw im a socdem(socialist if tou stretch the definition), tear me apart lol

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure, this guy thinks socdems are socialists, everyone point and laugh!

(It's not your fault that all the other liberals bully and gaslight you, we accept you as the only good kind of liberal ❤️)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

we accept you as the only good kind of liberal ❤️

Good enough for me as another socdem 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

we accept you as the only good kind of liberal

Speak for yourself only.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I was a socdem once. My elders told me I would move right when I paid taxes. Now, I'm "friends" with a kangaroo until the revolution or something. From what I understand, the kangaroo believes in a classful, stateful communism.

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