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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They’ve always taken the concept of privacy to such an extreme. What is happening there that they’ve started pushing so hard in the opposite direction?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is just a proposal and unlikely to go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

One of the most popular privacy guarded countries, and now it's at a risk. Might as well either drop using Proton mail and find another private country and a new software. Even if just temporary, because if this law does not pass then now you have a back up encrypted email service. this experiment is a win-win. Don't lose when you find out Proton mail is no longer private at the last second act now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I bet proton will move out of Switzerland if this becomes a law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They have said they will move when it does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

How?

Isn't that where the humans behind the scenes live?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What if there is a situation where they just don't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Sounds good. still doesn't hurt to have an alternative to jump ship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I think we need better ways to self host email

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It is almost like we should not rely on a single country

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Well, there goes ProtonMail. Let's hope it is not enacted. I'll wait for other neutral reports since Tuta is a major competitor. Should be a quick search.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Proton has made some statements about exiting Switzerland if these proposals become law. But who knows how long that would take and if any damage is done in the meantime.

Plus there’s other junk going on lately with Proton as a company…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Swiss law takes years — a change this big will probably go to referendum which adds a couple extra years as well. Expect this in the news for a while before anything happens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Tuta is hardly a competitor. They don't even do PGP encrypted email.