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[–] paige 22 points 20 hours ago

This is going to be a huge help for home video editors.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

but home Internet is still stuck at Gigabit speeds.... and only in some cases are they maybe letting you go to 2 Gb. Wasn't there that post floating around lemmy a while ago about how China can potentially give everyone like 5Gb for home or something? Can't find it now but swore it was here....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 59 minutes ago

I think 10GbE is more intended for local applications than for internet. Say, you have a NAS with a RAID array of nvme drives for video editing purposes that you want to access from a few workstations.

Even the other day I was quite happy to have 2.5GbE when I installed my new gaming PC, and steam was able to pull all my games directly from my old computer rather than downloading them over the internet again.

Anyway, LAN speeds have always been an order of magnitude higher than common internet speeds, so I don't see the issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Yes, this is the chicken and egg logic we have been served for the last 25 years that we have spent locked at 1 gigabit. This is because commercial players still had money left to milk to 10GBe deployments and 25 years later it it becoming obsolete in these environment. So we can have the free upgrade to 10GBe as the commercial deployments switch to 25, 40 and 100 GBe.

The thing manufacturer want to avoid collectively is product line cannibalization. And that means making sure that 10GBe was not the port you find on every random computer.

Of course, with the cloudification of general purpose computing. Most people in their homes just need a browser and streaming desktop client. So there could be other forces at play at preventing high speed LAN proliferation.

Imagine if a company could just make a 100$ nvme drive you can connect into your home router and it "just working". No cloud, no serves, no redirect. It opens the port, update IP dns client, update certificates, works everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The China article was true that they launched the service, but bullshit they are the fastest.

Plenty of other countries are running 10GB and faster services you can get to your home.

Sweden for example

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago

Same in Norway, many providers have been offering 10Gb for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

That depends on where you live. I could get 10 Gbit/s WAN if I wanted to pay the subscription for that but 500 Mbit/s is enough.

Also 10 Gbit/s is mainly useful for LAN. Like connecting to a NAS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, Im excited about the cards but getting a 1GB switch with a 10g uplink was expensive... 10g switches are... a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with that. There is almost no benefit to having residential Internet go beyond even 2Gb. Most people don't realize that or are not shown why and so immediately figure that a bigger number means better experience. I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router at home and the only time I really suffer is when downloading huge files but I end up doing so in the background anyway...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router

Is that a 10BASE-T connect over two pairs of twisted pair? But even then you'd naively expect Fast Ethernet 100 Mb/s at least. I'm curious what it's only 10, can you tell us?

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy 3 points 17 hours ago

I have so many questions about this too.. Commenting to come back later for the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

ATT Fiber offers 5G for residential, though I've seen people posting speedtests of 10G speeds which I'm not sure how they got because it was on the DIY fiber ONT discord lol

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (9 children)

About damn time. We got a boost every few years from 10 to 100 to 1000. Then we just... Stopped. Stagnated. It's understandable why, for a good long time one gigabit was all anybody needed, 100 MByte/sec is pretty good even for a NAS.

Of course then fiber ISPs got in the game, now in a lot of places you can buy 7-8gbps as a consumer product. And even multi-gig, which was supposed to 'fix' this, really ended up being insufficient. You could make a salad argument that multi gig was a waste of time and we should have just started moving to 10 gig.

Unfortunately, 10 gig switches still carry a significant premium. But this will start to shake that up. Sooner the better.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100MB/s are frustrating for a NAS. SSDs have been common for a decade, and the old spinning rust storage in my NAS is still faster than the network can handle?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Even HDDs can max a 100mbit connection. UHD Blurray is something like 80-150mbit/a.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Realtek are monsters of semiconductor creation.

Destroyed

  • sound card industry
  • network card industry

What's next?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 53 minutes ago

If only they were also monsters of incrementing the pcie device id when their chip revision breaks compatibility.

So you don't spend forever trying to Google on your phone or other laptop that you have to pull and rebuild the latest kernel, without an internet connection, because only that one knows that revision K needs power management set before the link will come up.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally anyone else could have done this. They all chose not to. So fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

I think they're making a bit of a joke here. It's just progress.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Oh please do printer interface.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Right up there battling broadcom for worst.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Can we finally get some affordable 10GbE switches too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about a cheap low power PC, like a thinkcentre, with a couple of these cards? Could double as a NAS, or is security barring that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure where security comes in for this, but that sounds like a reasonable build to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I was thinking about the switch most people have I guess, the xDSL "box" who doubles up as a gateway and protects from intrusion and so.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's impressive that they got the power consumption down to less than 2 watts. I think this is the first 10GBASE-T NIC I've seen that doesn't have a heatsink on it.

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