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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

I guess I realise now that the value of something is not what people believe it to be. It is the length of suffering and effort the creator went through.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

What bothers me about this is that the author fraudulently presented the book as her own work. Doesn't matter to me if she used AI or hired a ghost writer - claiming you wrote something you didn't write is fraud IMO. I've never understood how ghost writers are legal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Tony Schwartz, ghost-writer of The Art of the Deal, who spent hundreds of hours with Trump, has called him, "the worst human being we've seen in a long while: no values, no beliefs, not a single charming redeeming quality."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

or hired a ghost writer

Isn't that the entire point of hiring a ghost writer?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't what the entire point?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Their goddamn ghosts maaaaaihn

buckethat wearing, three quarter lengths with red tinted sumglesses, 1990s conspiracy theorist voice

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's bad enough that they are using AI to create their content, but don't they even proof-read it before uploading it? It seems like the most basic requirement, but they don't even seem to be bothering with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

real authors have editors. If you replace the author with an ai, you still need an editor. There is no version of the current style of ai that can replace an editor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

If only someone had created a proofreading AI.

Prompt: proofread the draft of my novel at a 6th grade reading level.

[–] karlhungus 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hate this title, how about:

"A novel by author Lena McDonald, accidentally leaves AI prompt in published version."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Or, more accurately, 'a novel that is at most partially by Lena McDonald'.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Or "a novel published as authored by Lena McDonald contains AI prompt"

[–] karlhungus 8 points 22 hours ago

lol, way better!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

🔥👄🔥 There should be severe consequences for this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It would suck for the author, Lena McDonald, if anyone who searched for

"Lena McDonald author"

found out about this story.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

I get what you're doing but they can just change pennames

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] recursive_recursion 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Leave your guess for how long we've got till AI apps are spammed everywhere.

Also for no reason in particular:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

My son and I laughed our asses off over that presentation. Brilliant but kind of disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

They don't mention enshittification - I think Doctorow popularized the term later - but this is a perfect example of a process that contributes to the phenomenon.

I had never thought about it in these terms, but they repeatedly mentioned curation, and it's so clearly a fundamental topic in today's online world.

This was an incredible video, thanks for sharing. It gave me a new perspective to consider.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vibe coders and every person using an LLM can't complain about it. It's fair game.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, you certainly can complain about it and still use it, when your livelihood requires you to either use the tech, or get left behind by those who do. Speed and turnaround time wins over skill and quality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

that is not true. Speed and turnaround NEVER wins over skill and quality. You need skill to produce stuff fast that is also of value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Almost. A sudden shift from skill and quality to speed and turnaround wins out in the short run, just long enough to make number go up, cash the checks, and take the golden parachute out while leaving your underlings and consumers holding the bag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AI can be ethically used in writing. This is not an example of that. People need to get into the "AI as a tool" mindset. And capitalism causing greed is part of the issue of course.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Writing is a rare form of communication, borderline unique to humans. Because of that, to me, it’s fundamentally unethical to have “AI” “write” anything. It’s insulting to me on a base level, particularly when used for communication.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

AI can be a fine tool to get writing inspiration, as with programming. It's not fine as used in this article's example.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We could also use a model or 2 trained on ethical data.

Until then its pretty easy to argue all ai is unethical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Would citing all the training sources satisfy the spirit of attribution licenses like CC-BY?