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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

My grandpa was a truck driver. He told me he hated bobtailing (driving with no trailer) because he didn’t get paid for it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (6 children)

When a semi drives without a trailer, it’s called “bobtailing”, and can be dangerous. Semis are designed for the weight of a trailer, and not having that weight there throws the balance off.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

Just have your mother sit in the back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but like any vehicle, if you know your machine and drive within its limits, it's fine. The only exception I can think of is when you're on the freeway and you suddenly encounter a patch of extremely rough road that you're going too fast for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very true. That’s why I was careful to say CAN be dangerous, not IS dangerous. Skilled truckers are some of the most capable and safe drivers on the road.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Skilled truckers

I have met truck drivers that can (and have demonstrated) back their trailer up to a cargo dock blindfolded.

I've met some that can navigate turning radii (radiuses? Radiens?) smaller than my old Nissan.

And then I've also met some that couldn't figure out their 13ft tall trailer can't fit under a 12ft 8 bridge...

For the most part though, in my experience truck drivers are better drivers than 97% of regular drivers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A bit true of larger trucks too. Long ago when we had an RV trailer and a dually truck, it rode and drove the best when it had a full load behind it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Not necessarily unsafe, but similar for vans too. With nothing in my RWD vans cargo bay it’s quite easy to break traction. Especially on cold tyres.

[–] Mongostein 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Other than size It’s no different than an empty pick-up in rear-wheel drive.

Actually it could be safer, depending on conditions, if you’re equipped with locking differentials.

Although some pick-ups have that too, so… depends 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I came here to say this. I'm not a driver, but I intake semi accident reports. They seem more likely to have accidents when they are bob tailing.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a former truck driver: can confirm. It was mostly freeing because I could actually go to Walmart or do laundry in the city without worrying about where and how to park.

Also, without a trailer it accelerates a lot faster. Like, genuinely spending more time shifting than accelerating. Feels weird.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you still start in 1st? Do you skip gears?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know anyone who starts in 1st even with a full load. Maybe some very heavy haul guys.

In a bobtail, I would routinely take off in 4th or even 5th, in a 10 speed.

Another thing to consider is the amount of torque available.

I have on occasion went through every gear without ever needing to accelerate. Did you know that in a semi trucks, bobtailing, in top gear, that idling the engine will still have you doing about 40 to 45mph.

And due to all the torque, it won't really be lugging the engine either to idle in gear while rolling on flat ground.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Awesome, thanks for the detailed answer!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The truck I was driving had a DT12 (12-speed) and it would shift 1-2-4-6-8-10-12 if I remember correctly. Even with only 7 gears to go through, it still took forever. Maybe it wasn't actually more time shifting than accelerating, but it sure felt like it lol.

[–] Mongostein 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t drive any more, but I’d start 18-speeds in 3rd and hit every 2nd gear on the way up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo: 2-Low?

Because, technically speaking, an 18 speed is just an 8 speed with power dividers.

1L, 1H, 2L, 2H, 3L, 3H, etc up to 8L, and 8H.

So where it gets interesting is low and reverse. Observe:

The gear shift only has 6 positions: R 1, 3 on top, and L, 2, 4 on the bottom. Then you flip the range selector to High and then the gear shift becomes: R-High, 5 7 and Low-High, 6, 8.

But there's also a power divider on the shift, usually thumb activated that further divides those gears.

Which means Reverse can be split again.. But so can reverse High. So you wind up with Reverse, Reverse High, then reverse High low and Reverse high high

And Low becomes even funnier: Because you can split low into low and low low, and low high into low high low..

But what's even more interesting is that generally, gear ratio of Low high and 4 are very close, almost identical.

[–] Mongostein 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

My only experience with driving trucks is in the Truck Sim games, but I agree.

Semi trucks haul ass when you have 600 bhp, a shitload of torque, and nothing in the back. Just don't take a corner too fast or you will regret it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It is pretty fun to drive around without a trailer in ETS2

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why I refuse to wear bras.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I tried wearing a bra once.

Boy was my wife pissed. Yelling about wearing out the elastic and shit. I haven't tried since.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I guess you could skip every other gear or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Take off your trailers and burn em

Or you can let bo burn em

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Muscle memory.