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they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

It would be nice to redirect a part of that money to support the development of used software. Thunderbird for example is constantly at risk of being shut down.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It would be nice to see the European governments start a genuine effort on funding open source development, and start laying the foundation for a migration to their own Linux distro. Microsoft isn't trustworthy. Hell, most American big tech is untrustworthy. Moving your government offices to an in house developed OS is going to be paramount for their security in the future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agree. Fb, Whatsapp, Instagram, Linkedin, Quora, Twitter, Tumblr - I do believe that social networks should be independent and decentralized and not manipulated by one person - thats why Lemmy, Mastodon is the best choice for me

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

LETS GOOOOO

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Would love to see further movements towards foss software in many other governments

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[–] [email protected] 239 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Fingers crossed that this will be an indisputable success. 🤞
Allegedly a similar project in Munich went really really well, but was shut down when the right wing came into power.
For some reason the right wing of Munich doesn't like freedom. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago (1 children)

was shut down when the right wing came into power.

...and when M$ moved their headquarters into the city of Munich, making some nice impact on the city treasury.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 days ago

Well there is never enough money for the workers that they need for open source but there is always more than enough money for companies and their consultants ✌️😎

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Munich racist shitheads (a.k.a. CSU) absolutely do love that sweet "freedom money" a.k.a. bribes though. Corrupt fuckers...

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Germany has done this multiple times before. Microsoft has historically swept in with some sweetheart deal to lure them back.

Hopefully it sticks this time.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I sometimes wonder what if everyone who spends money on licensing fees instead takes the same amount of money and puts it into FOSS. Imagine what we could achieve? Likely the money would be used more efficiently because they could donate it to non-profit companies which don't need to pay tax.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just remember, the license fees mostly don't go into development, or maintenance, or security, or any of that, they mostly pay for "sales" which includes a strong component of end customer support. When you divert "all that money" into FOSS, FOSS development and maintenance might be lucky to get 20%, the other 80% will be spend training and employing tech support.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 days ago

Microsoft blocking email access to the ICJ director may be the best thing to happen for Linux adoption since the SteamDeck. Now every Microsoft lobbyst can be asked what would happen is the US government order Microsoft to block them out of their infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is the sort of adoption we need to bring Linux into the mainstream

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This and software companies openly supporting Linux. For example, if Adobe and AutoCAD among others would build some tars then you could see it.

Ironically, Game Engines are ahead of the curve on this. You could build Unreal Engine from the github page on Linux for many years now and we also have Godot and Blender. I think several PCB design and also architecture tools already exist on Linux as well, so there is definitely room for a lot of industries and businesses to shift away from Windows as long as they can find a competent tech guy to maintain everything with minimal downtime.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Holy fuck, that's the clearest sign for war prepararion ive seen from Europe yet, they don't want the US in their computers.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This has been planned for quite some time, so not really.

Also, other states insist on using Palantir so there's that...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have seen this happen before, for a while, then somehow M$ convinced them to switch back.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

In other news: the German military partners with Google to provide the software for their new cloud service...

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Bundeswehr-relies-on-Google-Cloud-10397526.html

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Just wait for Microsoft to start astroturfing the initiative.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's gonna be a rough few months for the IT department

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Actually being able to troubleshoot things yourself instead of waiting for a reply from Microsoft support is a godsend.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Assuming the IT staff isn't comprised of a bunch of junior techs that only know the Microsoft suite and not the actual inner workings of how email and Linux works.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Conveniently, this could be a path to competence for those juniors in the long term.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Some localities in Germany have been incorporating Linux into their systems for 20+ years.

That may explain why the financial benefits seem low.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago

Let's hope it sticks when Microsoft backs up the money truck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Ofc its Schleswig-Holstein. The only sane state with sane politicians

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I admire the plan, but I doubt the public sector is going to completely acclimate to Linux. The average age of an employee in the public sector is something like 40+.

You might get lucky and get them to use one new program like LibreOffice, but there's no way you're going to completely revamp every desktop PC to Linux. I work in this field, and while everyone has been nice and friendly, they (and the entire system around them) are also hugely resistant to digital change. If they ever make the move to a Linux Desktop environment, the IT support will go through hell.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

Eh, I don't know. I've worked developing software for the administration and their computer use is just the applications (web or native) they had built to perform their tasks. The OS is very irrelevant to them, some orgs even had shortcuts to these native programs put in their intranet, back in the days of java applets.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I know what you are saying, but it is not so bad: First of all, most things people are doing at work is not really related to the OS underneath. So if you are responsible for creating passports, you are using the special government program for passport creation. If you are a policeman, you are using the special police software to do your policework. Yeah, you need additional training, but in the best case your usual software keeps working. Most people are not really interacting with the OS during their work day.

(and let's be honest: Microsofts totally insane UI changes are also requiring lots of training. If you are used to just click on some specific buttons that somebody told you to click on, you're totally lost in Microsofts crazy wonderland of ridiculous UI changes )

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Plus government computers are always old as shit so Linux should install nice and easy, give em mint for that windows like UI.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

the IT support will go through hell.

I thought IT support was already in perpetual hell?

For the last 10+ years "the desktop" has been over 90% the browser, and the Chrome, Firefox, Edge user experiences are pretty similar to start with. Chrome on Linux vs Chrome on Windows is virtually indistinguishable.

I gave my wife a Dell laptop new from the factory with Ubuntu on it about 3 years ago. The printer support in Windows was already bad, and yes it's a bit worse in Linux, otherwise she just complains less and has fewer screaming fits of frustration.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (13 children)

If the trend continues then maybe the hacker community will start focusing on Linux. Can you imagine "I don't need a virus scanner, I use Windows, the under dog OS"

[–] tempest 56 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The hacker community it's very focused on Linux since most servers in the world run it. The fly by night script kiddies and botnet creators definitely prefer end user systems though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm more surprised that a city in Germany didn't switch to Linux a decade or more ago.

Late to the party is still showing up, good for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Too busy faxing each other. Germany is Luddite Land, by choice.

Source: moved here 7 years ago. Germans are a weird bunch. Change is not welcome in just about any form.

Nice to see them adopt the open source apps, though. They can probably get some screaming deals on some US Robotics 56k modems on eBay Local.

🤪😘

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (26 children)

LibreOffice is a great alternative for 99% of people, but there is that 1% of people who is gonna be disappointment. This is a great step though.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Same goes for any software.

I don't understand why people act like Windows is the holy grail of computing.

It sucks, it barely works for 90% of users, and the rest will use anything else.

Just as Linux will work for 98% of people, and those last ones are due to handful of evil companies.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I switched to Thunderbird about a year and a half ago.

Last week I had to help a coworker with their Outlook and holy shit is it so much worse than when I dropped it. There is so much AI garbage in every little thing and bad design getting in the way of just sending and receiving emails.

Same thing for the other office products

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I can't see a reason why Linux distro wouldn't be enough for 99% of office machines. Unless deployment is really that much better and easier with Windows and MS Office. And whatever proprietary apps they use that need running on certain OS.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Those proprietary apps are the really big factor. A lot of stuff is run from a browser these days, but some systems are just too expensive to replace.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it is just step 1

we will get rid of all closed source shit.

weak bavarians failed after successfull transistion to "LiMux" (their linux fork) they got bribed with 8k M$ jobs in munich.

but not the state of schleswig-holstein! we will prevail.

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