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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

Hey everyone

We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

What you need to know

As of now:

  • New user registrations are disabled
  • Creating new communities is disabled

What you should do:

  • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
  • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
  • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
  • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

Why this is happening

The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

– lemm.ee team

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[–] Alabaster_Mango 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Plugging Lemmy.ca for any Canadians getting stranded by this. Non-Canadians are also welcome, I'm not your boss.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

your not my canadian supervisor!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Typical Canadians with their Brain Gain schenanagins

[–] Alabaster_Mango 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Us harvesting the meme lords

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Damn this is sad news. RIP.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To lemm.ee users, what instance you planning to migrate to?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(Everybody admin/active users promoting their home instance)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, those too. I don't think the admins are going to migrate, they're all burnt out.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was more a joke about how that kind of happened in another thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45832344/19173621

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Ah, i see now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have a programming.dev alt that i would use, but the site is unbearably slow.
I may use piefed from now on, but there's a lot of muscle memory I have to unlearn for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PD would be a good choice, but has too many problems. I guess nowadays, (besides dbzer0 of course lol, i'm biased) i'd maybe go with lemmy.zip? Has image proxying, so i can bypass the blahaj/feddit blocks which is a GODSEND.

Piefed's great. My alt (@[email protected]) is just sitting there, but hopefully i'll use it more soon.

Alternatively we can skip all of that and make feddit.ir :troll:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has image proxying, so i can bypass the blahaj/feddit blocks which is a GODSEND.

Wait, Blahaj and feddit.org have a block? What do they block?

Also, feddit.org isn't feddit.nl, or feddit.it or feddit.uk 😄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, Blahaj and feddit.org have a block? What do they block?

Blahaj is blocked in my country, and feddit blocks my region.

Also, feddit.org isn’t feddit.nl, or feddit.it or feddit.uk 😄

Aggh, you know what i meant :D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will still fight feddit.org becoming "the" feddit while there are so many others :D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Clearly we need to make a fedd.it to become the dominant feddit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, I might make an account there. I really like lemm.ee because of the federation policy and .zip seems similar.

I might start a fork of lemmy-ui for piefed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I might start a fork of lemmy-ui for piefed.

Shouldn't be too hard, but the APIs might become distinct in the future. Personally i'd love to see this, so that's two people who want it :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The main problem is I am shit at rust.

I am hoping that piefed implements lemmy's api.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The main problem is I am shit at rust.

real. Though lemmy-ui is written in typescript afaik, so rust shouldn't be involved at all

I am hoping that piefed implements lemmy’s api.

I've bugged rimu multiple times to implement a dummy /v3 route to redirect it all to /alpha (which is what piefed uses) which theoretically should make lots of lemmy apps work without modification? Yet he never tried it sadly, so we'll never know i guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, its in typescript.

I thought it said rust last time I checked it, this is probably a consequence of juggling too many tabs.

edit: changed image link. RIP lemm.ee

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I probably was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Actually, screwing around with it a bit, I think I got it kinda working by changing one string: "v3" to "alpha".

Edit: changed image link. RIP lemm.ee

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wtf :O have you tested it with an instance, yet? Try out https://piefed.social/. It has the API now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm trying to, but the docs require you to use systemd, and I'm running it in wsl. I can set the instance, but I can't get it to use https for some reason, and piefed returns a 302 on any http request.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'll try to do so, later. Will reply here if i get something / fail to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

That would be great. I really prefer Lemmy-ui, maybe it's Stockholm's syndrome

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Whenever you get slowness issues let one of the infrastructure team know and we can look at it. I just fixed something out that might fix some of the issues (were still behind a bit behind on activities from lemmy.world for a bit though while that tries to catch up)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Thank you for reacting on the Matrix channel, and restarting the server

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'll do that in future.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

This is also a reminder that if you enjoy your home instance consider making a donation or volunteering for some admin/mod work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a write-up containing details? I'd like to learn more about the state of the platform from an admin's perspective, their challenges and the seemingly bad issues they face on a regular basis... Did anyone write down something like this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can’t find the links others posted but it was less about the infrastructure and more about troll/bad actor whack-a-mole

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thanks, yes I'd like to read more about how the trolls and bad actors behave on the Fediverse, and why the tools and task sharing with the mods (and maybe other instances) don't work out. And the platform makes the admin's lives miserable. I guess we could learn something here, because that's an important subject if we want to keep the Fediverse somewhat healthy in the long term. But I can understand why those admins might not be in the situation to write long blog posts... Just if they did, and someone happens to have a like, let me know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But lemm.ee shutting down isn't about the drama around one or two specific users, is it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure, but that's an example of how deep that drama can go. I was tangentially impacted by it as I had reports coming back and forth on a community I mod between those people, I can't imagine what it was at the admin level

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alright. This is just us - not-so-invested as an admin of a bigger instance - people speculating, though. I believe to address specific systematic problems on the platform, we'd need to have more. But I feel we shouldn't push anyone who is burnt-out already. I regularly see a lot of problems here, and the platform also regularly stirs up drama and not-so-nice behaviour, due to how things are laid out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

We're going to have to figure out how to automate dealing with fascist trolls in our decentralized circles.