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EDIT: I decided on Mailbox.org!

Cross-posted from "Looking for a good e-mail provider that's not Tuta/Proton" by @[email protected] in [email protected]


I'd like to use a third-party client like Thunderbird to handle my e-mails, which rules out both Tuta and Proton (I know Proton has their bridge, but I don't want to rely on it). I'm willing to compromise on my e-mails not being encrypted, as long as the e-mail provider has a reputation of caring about the customer's privacy. If I truly want to encrypt a message, I'll encrypt it myself. I've been looking at Mailbox.org, and while I've been hearing good things, people have also been complaining about their lack of support, outdated interface as well as that they don't enforce DKIM/DMARC which enables spoofing.

I would like to be able to use my own custom domain, but also to use their own domain for my e-mail aliases. EU-based only.

Any thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Good choice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Hmm I mentioned them in my post as I've been apprehensive about them, maybe it's unfounded though..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://eylenburg.github.io/cloud_comparison.htm

Turn on the filter for email about IMAP and you'll have all your options. You'll have to look up whether they allow custom domains though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

This is a better list than the ones I've seen previously. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

For anyone reading this: Mailbox.org is great, alternatives I like too are posteo and disroot. I use Discord and am happy with it. Its free and optional one time fee upgrades are possible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't know if Australia is to be trusted tbh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Dont. Our encryption and privacy laws are garbage

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

As am Australian, do not trust us, we keep votong for politcans who are happy to use the no prowvacy dildo of consequence and use the CSAM/ terrorist trope to attack anyone against it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Disroot and Autistici are both good options that work with IMAP :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Infomaniak? Thundermail? The latter only has a waitlist for now, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, but apparently Infomaniak has some privacy-related issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now that I think of it, I do remember them asking for my address and phone number in order to sign up . . .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Exactly. I tried to create an account years ago, but when I saw it, I never tried again and completely discarded.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no support for using their own domain as an alias. I want to use both my custom domain and their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Could you get the extra functionality you're after from addy.io?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Posteo.de. Been using them for years, and are coulden't be more happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is it not possible to use thunderbird (or any email client) wirh tutu (or any email provider)? I thought you could plug in your email provider's smtp and imap/pop information and your account credentials into any app.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The way Tuta and Proton have set up E2EE is not compatible with Thunderbird.

Proton offers a "bridge" service that does local decryption for email clients like TB but it's an extra step and has to be running 24/7.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Ah. Thanks for the explanation .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I use posteo. The interface is nothing to write home about, but since I use thunderbird, this is not a dealbreaker (for me).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Unfortunately no support for custom domains.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Buy your own domain name, rent a mail-hotel, and you have the full control. Set it up with IMAP, and enjoy it in Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As I wrote in my post, I already have a custom domain but I want to use both my domain and theirs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

If you have your own, why do you want to use theirs?