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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Perhaps the actual answer is for people to learn self control.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is literally not a problem with smartphones, the problem is about the software you decide to run on it. A smartphone is simply a very powerful pocket computer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I agree, except that we are legally not allowed to control the software on our phones in lots of cases. Notifications, ads, upgrades, etc. are all controlled by the manufacturer and it's illegal to override their software on the device you own.

Add to that that specific pieces of software are becoming increasingly necessary to function in society, and you start to see that it's not really a matter of individual choice, anymore than people shopping at walmart can be blamed for buying processed, sugary foods when that's 90% of what walmart stocks (And all they promote), and walmart is the only affordable option in their community.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Do it anyway. I use adb to modify my phone and make it suck less. I also look forward to the day (if it ever comes) where Linux phones are a viable replacement option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I've been able to turn off notifications for anything on my phone. Only the few apps I choose to allow still give me notifications.

I am fortunate to have a job that does not require a cell phone, I can leave it behind for hours at a time without affecting my work. I know this is not the case for everyone, but it should be an option.

At the very least, a phone required for work should have a separate phone number and email account, and should turn off automatically after the employee clocks out for the day. Some countries already have laws about this stuff, we should do that more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Illegal? What jurisdiction? There are tons of Lineage OS users and I haven't heard of anyone getting arrested for using them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No. Smartphones convicted the murderer of George Floyd. Smartphones have shown to the world the police brutality that happens at peaceful protests. Technology isn't inherently evil, it's how its used.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Smart phones are just pocket computers. Up to you how their used, good evil neutral it's all at ur fingertips.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

How about no. I've been wanting a pocketable "do everything" device since I got a Tiger Electronics PokeDex as a kid. Don't take this away from me.

How about better regulations on the obscene amount of data collection going on behind our backs? I can't count how many times I've come across even just websites that have a giant "accept all cookies" button, but in order to reject any, you have to dig through layers and layers of "settings". The most I've seen was 80+. And that's just websites.

I'm about to wipe my phone and go all-in on Calyx OS.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

Ban social media and advertising/marketing. Smart phones are just a small computer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (7 children)

smartphones are one of rhe hundreds o things that would probably be just fine and good if it weren't for capitalism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Idk, Smartphones under Feudalism can be just as bad, if not worse.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

The problem is with planned obsolescence and capitalist drive to always make more. The device itself is not inherently bad, it's a glorified calculator.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty far down the luddite/makhaevist wormhole... But this is just a garbage idea.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Me who has a disability which prevents me from speaking and hearing people and renders me bedridden.

“Okay, guess I’ll die then”

[–] yardratianSoma 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Author admits smartphones are ubiquitous, and doesn't at all consider, in a hypothetical situation where everyone unanimously agreed to stop using them, where all this e-waste will go?

Also, how do you disillusion the millions of people that use them religiously?

I get the sentiment, but only a significant technologically literate society would really appreciate the need for greater control over their devices and actually possess the skills needed to modify and configure them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Current smart phones will become e-waste either way. On that front, the benefit would be forcing all manufacturers to stop creating more e-waste for the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Author admits smartphones are ubiquitous, and doesn’t at all consider, in a hypothetical situation where everyone unanimously agreed to stop using them, where all this e-waste will go?

Pretty much every single smartphone in use right now will be ewaste 20 years from now, and most of them will be within 10. So we have that disposal problem already regardless. Hypothetically, if everyone were to get rid of their phones, we'd at least stop creating even more future ewaste.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Hey David, can you guess how many people are reading your article from a smartphone? Convenient, isn't it.

Want to complain about smartphones? Write a book... or something that can be published on fucking paper.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All claims and no reasoning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

But people clicked it, and it's the only thing that matters. Of course banning smartphones completely is a stupid idea, but it's a wild claim that draws attention.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is Jacobin just garbage or am I just seeing only garbage articles?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Idk why don't you go directly to the site?

https://jacobin.com/

Looks fine to me but they're preaching to the choir. You're certainly right that people have only been posting their shit takes here.

Like some kind of engagement or rage bait or something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

No. If you wanna ditch the Internet, go right ahead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I'm perfectly fine switching back to a "feature phone" aka dump phone that takes phone calls and sends texts. If it also could be used as a music/podcast playiner, that'd be great too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

And then what? Go back to the stone age?

Kids waiting to get picked at school and their parents have emergency, how are they gonna inform the others to get picked up? Are they gonna just let that kid suck it up and wait for hours, just like the good old times?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

What? Corded phones exist, and most schools and offices have at least one in each room. Dumb phones exist. Pagers exist.

Smart phones are not the only singular solution for easy, quick contact.

[–] AstralPath 4 points 6 days ago

The stone age = any time before 2005 apparently 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even better, let's make being happy mandatory.

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