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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Only if you're running it at full load all the time and comparing that to a comparable number of raspberry pis it would take to do the same amount of work. Also, only if you live in a cold climate and the heat generated is not a concern and power is supplied by a renewable source so power isn't a concern.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

A RPi is going to be smaller, quieter, and 10x more energy efficient though...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also, Raspberry Pi first got popular because of the size and cost. Now it's popular because it's popular. Not hating on them, I think they're cool, but they're not cheap any more. Especially with the scalping.

Getting x86_64 based systems is going to mean much less headache. Unless you truly truly need the size I wouldn't consider getting a Pi or other SBC. Just go to literally any used marketplace (Facebook, Craigslist, etc) and get anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's only true for the high-end Pi 5. Lower-powered models like the zero 2 are still cheap, and they're a lot easier to find than a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago

Which part? Because the "it's not x86" is even more annoying to deal with on Pi Zero lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I'm sure silicon valley are stepping on each other, vying to get their hands on these super cheap laptops for their 24/7 AI training.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 minutes ago

No Silicon Valley are the ones throwing these things away because it costs them too much money to deal with old unreliable PCs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They aren't very useful for much besides hobby projects. Modern hardware is more energy efficient and will be cheaper in the long run compared to anything that would be considered e-waste. The only advantage an old laptop has is the initial cost, so it makes sense for a small home server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I had the accounting self hosted web app on it until I was too lazy for accounting and now I am in so called hot water and must make bunch of shit up using mathematical apparatus

But it worked really well for a year or so

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah... I'm not going to stick a clunky old laptop on top of my bookshelf and have it run 24/7 as my PiHole. My Pi Zero 2 W is far more appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No reason why a laptop wouldn't work though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I mean, a lot of things would work, I could power it all with potato batteries if I had enough. The Pi Zero 2 W only cost ~£15 anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But... that's so uncool...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I should have rebuilt an old coffee maker in to a Pi Hole instead. I'm such a rube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that the Zero is up to the task, but I prefer a wired connection for my home DNS/DHCP server and if I understand correctly the Pi5 has better wired ethernet than its predecessors... Yeah, utilization is laughable, but there's something to be said for reduced lag time too:

Hostname:	pihole
CPU:	0.2% on 4 cores running 318 processes (0.3% used by FTL)
RAM:	25.9% of 2.0 GB is used (7.4% used by FTL)
Swap:	35.9% of 512.0 MB is used
Kernel:	Linux pihole 6.12.25+rpt-rpi-2712 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.12.25-1+rpt1 (2025-04-30) aarch64
Uptime:	a month (running since Sunday, May 18th 2025, 17:54:59
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have never felt the need to have a wired connection for my DNS/DHCP, since such a trivial amount of data exchanges hands. The quality of the wired connection if it had one would similarly have negligible impact, surely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

For me it's not about the bandwidth, it's about the lag and reliability. I have had strong WiFi connections flake out a lot more than wired connections.

Also, I just prefer to not have 100+ WiFi devices kicking around my network when more than half of them could be wired, or on another protocol like Zigbee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I guess I am pretty far from saturating my WiFi in any way, the removal of cables with little to no impact on connectivity was far more of a priority for me. I have never noticed a WiFi related outage or performance loss.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

damn you all, now I impulse bought an old thin client for 30EUR :-) but, fwiw: I mostly use RPi for my purposes, up to RPi4; RPi 5 I think missed the mark, with its active cooling requirement and power use. (and price...) the only use case where an i86 alternative is justified is my jellyfin setup (where realtime transcoding is needed).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

As a Pi Hole, the Pi 5 doesn't require active cooling.

Now, I am running a separate Pi 5 with a HAILO 8 for Frigate monitoring of a bunch of video streams, and it does need a little air movement, so I built a box with a 200mm fan pulling through a filter and I just threw all my Pis in there along with the Frigate rig so they stay nice and cool... I'm thinking that I should probably switch Frigate over to a Pi 4 for the h.264 hardware decoder, but the 5 is working fine for my needs and endless tweaking gets boring...

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