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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

if by "defend our nation" he means "destabilizing foreign nations" then yeah, he is correct.

[–] tempest 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is an argument to be made that they are defending American hegemony though Trump is fast eroding that in favor of the Chinese.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

inshallah 🙏

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one will ever match North Korea's marching game.

[–] tempest 2 points 1 day ago

I personally enjoy their "Jumbotron" where everyone holds a pixel and they change in unison.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Eeehh, so yes, after basic i did not march anywhere really. And you do need to brush up on it to keep in the swing of things…. But honestly, you know your unit is going to march in a parade months in advance, and for better or worse are going to represent the armed forces, you schedule mandatory training time.

Is it wasteful? Arguably under normal circumstances, definitely under this circumstance.

So i can only conclude that either they did not care, or do care a lot, or someone who was supposed to plan this fucked up and they just grabbed people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

If I was the commanding officer for this absolute sham, I'd teach them to match the goose step to make a point.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (6 children)

"Defend our nation" by starting wars to keep rich people rich?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I despised drill and ceremony. Standing in the heat and humidity, waiting to move and watching soldiers drop because of heat stroke. Never lock your damn knees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Made more sense back in the day when you didnt have TV or anything to do for most of every day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I did the last sentence and got punished when I was in school ☠️

Did they even know locking knees feel painful already?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's very important for soldiers to focus on doing "important work to defend our nation" (murdering brown kids) and that they're "productive at their jobs" (bombing hospitals)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

When has the US military defended the nation? I got the impression that they're mostly used for invading foreign countries for financial gain, cf Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba, Guatemala, Korea.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

to defend the interests of our nations elites.

[–] [email protected] 256 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I am surprised at how many people do not get it. In military you cannot not comply with the orders, especially whan there is clearly nothing criminal with it. The guys doing sloppy marching is pretty much the only agency they have and the only way to protest and boycot that ridiculous parade.

[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 days ago

This. NATO has us troops stationed all over europe. They marched just fine during european parades.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago

Malicious compliance

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

This is just not accurate.

Here's an example proving it incorrect:

https://youtu.be/aeFltEjzR2Y?t=1212

That's just a unit. Not a ceremonial one.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I mean the honest truth is the military hates Trump just like the rest of us

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Given that Fortunate Son was playing as one of the songs...

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

From what I'm hearing from coordinators and people inside its not that they can't march. It's that nobody wanted to. They had to be there. So they phoned it in. Malicious compliance.

Like the squeaky tanks. That was a choice made in the motor pool. They could have greased them up and tested to make sure they were smooth. But they made a different call.

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[–] [email protected] 183 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think the way they marched says more about trump than it does their ability to march. I very much doubt they forgot how to do it.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Like riding a bike. Those soldiers were doing their best to sham in plain sight and right in front of that bloated tangerine, I’ve never been so proud of the E-4 mafia in my life.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This is a false dichotomy, as though you can either be productive or learn to march. Obviously you could do both.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The way the marines, in particular, marched… no. That was sloppy and looked intentional.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 3 days ago (10 children)

it was intentional… they also didn’t look at or salute the Dump when he stood to salute them, under the giant Coinbase signs….

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

Didn't North Korean military slap US military with their dick on their faces for years? Isn't that the reason a North Korea exists at all?

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (8 children)

They deliberately half-assed the parade because they don't like the way Trump treats them. Trump calls them "suckers and losers." He cuts their benefits Why would you show any loyalty (or enthusiasm) to someone who treats you like that?

More Trump quotes: "You fucking generals. Why can't you be more like Hitler's generals?" 2017

On the burial of US Army private Vanessa Guillén: "It doesn't cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!" December 4, 2020. Trump has denied having made the remark.

"We're not going to support that loser's funeral." August, 2018. Trump has denied having made this remark.

re: John McCain, who was captured and tortured for five years: "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured, okay? I hate to tell you." July 18, 2015.

"But, you know, during the Vietnam War, I got very lucky. I had a very high lottery number." November 9, 1995.

On the 1,800 US Marines who died at Belleau Wood in France during World War I "Suckers." November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

On US soldiers in World War I "Who were the good guys in this war?" November 11, 2018. Trump denies having asked this question.

"I don't get it. What was in it for them?" November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

On disabled veterans "Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded." September 30, 2019.

"Look, I don't want any wounded guys in the parade. This doesn't look good for me." Summer 2017.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The band played "Fortunate Son". They all knew exactly what they were doing.

If shit ever does hit the fan full send (I very much doubt it) he doesn't have the army.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They didn't want to attract the worm.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I was only in marching band. 25 years later, I promise I could still do it with zero practice. This was on purpose.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

“A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.”
– Soviet observation during the Cold War

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago

The entire thing screamed humiliation display more than anything else. And the anything else was like a half assed shitty commercial for military equipment. They had actual soldiers playing dress up for no fucking reason while wasting a fuck ton of money the VA could’ve used. Just despicable all around.

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