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[–] [email protected] 4 points 49 minutes ago

Someone is holding onto it at the top of the stairs..

This is from the bottom with the mattress sagging into the step a bit due to gravity...

The railing is barely visible at an angle that points to it being from the bottom looking up...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 minutes ago

Top. Stairs aren't that tall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

It is an ai generated image containing indicators of both perspectives to drive engagement

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

Plot twist: Stuck in the middle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago

Bottom. Angle isn’t right to be the top.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

While I'm not 100% certain it's not just confusing perspective, it does appear that the slope rise is shorter than the run, suggesting that this is from the top of the stairs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Nice catch. The carpet wear corroborates this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think the railing gives it away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Top the railing gives it away

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Thought something was weird here. The contrast and colour is making it difficult. If you turn up shadows it changes the entire feeling, including where the obvious light source is. I wouldn't expect the dark side of the mattress unless there was a bright light directly above it.

Also the banister/handrail arm wouldn't be horizontal. Most importantly, congrats, you got me invested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

No, the light could still be above the mattress on the ceiling at the bottom of the stairwell. This proves nothing.

But, the wear on the carpet indicates to me that those are the treads, so this is taken from the top of the stairs looking down. Also, not mentioned elsewhere, there is usually a nose on the treads and the carpet would follow the nose, which can't be seen from above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

The real question isnt "where is it" but "what bastard wants it to be anywhere else?".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

The biggest factor IMO is something no one mentioned yet: we can only see one face of each step (either the top or the wall). If a photo is taken from the bottom, we would almost always be able to see the tops of the first few steps, which isn't visible here. If a photo is taken from the top, the walls would pretty much never be visible (if they were, you could also see the photographer's feet).

Therefore, this photo is only consistent with a photo taken from the top.

It is possible that this is an extremely long flight of stairs or that the photo was taken from a deliberately deceptive angle, but if that's the case I have to say it was expertly done, because I am CERTAIN that we are looking from the top and the mattress is at the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah, the hanger for the banister is very common, it protudes from the wall and turns up into the bottom of the handrail, therfore we are looking from the bottom up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's going at an angle, not up. It's 90° from the handrail itself, which is sloped to match the incline of the stairs.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 8 hours ago (19 children)

bottom, as we only can see the treads not the risers (that small inset underneath a step).

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

And you can see the wear on the treads. plus the handrail mount in the top left would be at a very inconvenient height if we were looking from the bottom up

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The handrail argument doesn't make any sense. It would be at the same height regardless of direction.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Also, the handrail mount is sideways if we're looking down; if we're looking up, it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Maybe it is a light fixture.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

It's the top of the stairs because in the top left of thr image you can see the banister support. If the mattresses were at the bottom then the angle of that support would be different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Why is no one else talking about this.

There's no debate. It's at the top of the stairs.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Top. assuming the light in the stairwell comes from the ceiling, the shadows under the mattress give the impression we are looking up at the mattress. The handrail is probably a light fixture.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Bottom, we can see dust and debris accumulated on the "run" part of the steps.

[–] MisterD 3 points 4 hours ago

And you don't see the nosing of the steps.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I have those stairs with that carpet.

💯% this is looking down to a mattress at the bottom of the stairs.

Conclusive evidence:
Looking Down

Looking Up

(Sorry I was too lazy to get the low perspective)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not convinced. It's a different set of stairs and a different carpet. I have had stairs with a carpet more similar to the OP that did not have a riser. See elsewhere in these comments for a photo of these stairs, now bare. In the distant past, they were carpeted.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

From the wear patten on the carpet I would say bottom, but the handle to the side makes me think top !....

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bottom.

  1. The risers on the stairs are not visible.

  2. The wear on the carpet goes right to the edge. That's consistent with people stepping on it, not kicking it on the way up.

  3. If it's at the top, the mattress doesn't appear to have any of its weight resting on a step. It could be so wedged in that it's being held in place, and that it was wedged that way by someone awkwardly pushing at the ends of it in a way that wouldn't seem to give them enough leverage to do that. But the obvious explanation is more likely, that it's at the bottom of the stairs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

If it was at the top those would be some big steps you'd have to lift your leg up over

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We could be looking at the stairs from underneath.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

awh shit, i clipped through the geometry again

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

top. you can see part of the handrail on the top left of the picture

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

I think that's a heavy duty banister bracket, like this one:

white heavy duty banister bracket

Some banister brackets have a swivel type arrangement so that the bracket can be vertical underneath the handrail, no matter the angle of the handrail. Basic heavy duty brackets like this one are completely fixed in orientation, so they're installed with the vertical support at an angle to support the handrail. I suspect the bracket in the photo is at a 45ish degree angle and only looks vertical due to the perspective. The banister has been deliberately cropped out of the photo to make the perspective as confusing as possible.

Personally I think the photo was taken from the top of the stairs looking down, based on the wear in the carpet.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)


does the trim look weird to anyone else

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah.

It’s below that grab bar thing and looks like old shit. I’m guessing a stud is there and the wall isn’t flat so it’s poking out and they joined the moulding there too. Or a shit repair like I’d do.

Also I say the mattress is at the top because lighting and the stair surfaces look like vertical riser height but that’s just grasping.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I think it is the bottom of the top of the stairs because of the lighting to the bottom left of the mattress. That should be in shadow from the mattress if it was at the bottom of the stairs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Not if the mattress is coming in from an outside door. That light could be daylight. In fact I believe this to be the case.

[–] CileTheSane 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We are looking down on the mattress and it is casting a shadow on the step below it. If we were looking up at the mattress it would be casting a shadow across the stairs in front of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yup, I agree

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

I’m a stairs half full kinda person

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