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It's just a feelings graph. It doesn't reflect actual quantifiable product quality, longevity, or value.
In the notes it just says consumers were surveyed.
In other words if you say your product is made in Germany there's a better chance people will assume your product is better.
It's like seeing the Norwegian or Canadian flag on winter clothing, you just assume it's going to keep you warm.
Maple syrup, Canada number 1.
I'm surprised to see Russia so high up but in all honesty Russia doesnt really export anything but perishables. Even before the war Russian made products were laughable at best and straight up insulting to everyone involved at worst.
It's the Soviet's "build to last" manufacturing thats really carrying this reputation like ak-47 or even small things like meat grinders and razors are regarded as "build to last forever" in post soviet countries by old people.
Unironically, the "Soviet's build to last" idea was nothing more than a propaganda product, like "cheap, natural and tasty ice cream" and "natural sausages". In fact, comparing one-to-one tooling made in US vs Soviet tooling, it turns out that US was much higher quality and could last longer.
The primary reason for that illusion to sustain is because after soviet union fell apart, general poverty caused people to use tooling until it broke down completely โย which made quality degradation of modern tooling much more apparent. The old-created tooling was produced years ago, and it was economically unsustainable at that point of time, and it was produced in huge masses disregarding actual need โย making it almost as cheap as the new bought (while the latter was lower quality).
At the same time, the overall quality degradation for pricing lowering in richer countries was not noticed as much, because people were changing things over the time. I still see lots of projects, where people restore old European grinders, saws, etc โ to the state that those tools look like new. They just got into awful shape, because there was an ability to replace thing, while in post-soviet countries you had no choice: either you take a good care of tool, or you don't have it at all (because of poverty).
p.s. The ice cream and sausages is really just a propaganda legent: they were adding margarine to the ice cream, and so much stabilizers to sausages, it wouldn't be allowed even in US, not speaking of EU.
Speaking of razors: I only recently learned that Gilette was producing their double-edged blades for safety razors in russia. IDK if they still are, but... yeah, that was a surprise for me.
Good point tho small part of the items were legit good due to keep it simple philosophy even if not intentionally. Particularly as you mentioned stuff like razors were very well regarded.
As for present it's actually crazy how incapable Russia is at making stuff. As a Russian speaker myself I struggle to come up with any other country with such miniscule presence in actually creating stuff that is not weapons, rockets or dubious software.
AFAIK nginx was originally created by a russian, then opensourced.
Though, now, I cannot care less for russian products, not since 24.02.2022.
I've worked with many Russian software developers and they're mostly good dudes making good stuff. The issue is the brainwashed and uneducated masses and some bad apples that are in bed with the this mafia system.
Top export Switzerland: Gold.
TIL Switzerland "makes" gold.
Swiss makes bank(s), that's why.
Canada's top export is crude oil. Majority of our vehicle manufacturing has long since jumped ship.
Now I don't trust the rest of this graphic. Should have known with emoji's on a graph.
Edit: I see this is referencing a 2017 study so just out of date maybe.
This graph is really, really wrong. Properly messed up.
Made in Russia and Made in Taiwan are on the same level of respect??? ๐ค
The data is from 2017, surely that perception has changed - still surprising though.
who the hell puts taiwan and russia equal peg? Taiwan makes the worlds CPU's, Russia makes the world's ? oil and gas mainly?
Russia doesn't make anything and coasting off Soviet reputation which is still prevelant with old people of post-soviet countries.
UK still makes vehicles?
Made in the UK sure. But brands are not owned by UK companys
Really? Gold? People trust Swiss gold?
Must be just from common perception. Thereโs a ton of stuff out of China that works great. But itโs like the airline trip where something goes wrong - lost luggage or misconnect that costs you vacation days - that everyone remembers and talks about. Some bad products ruin the perception.
Most stuff is made in China, but that does include cheap and low quality stuff. China can produce decent stuff. I believe some luxury brands were making stuff in China and just sticking their logo on it when it got to the west.