this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2025
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Engage a liberal on Marxism and witness pure ideological autocomplete when they start flawlessly regurgitating anti-communist talking points with zero cognitive friction. No material analysis, no historical engagement, just the frictionless recall of a language model trained on Cold War tropes.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Vuvuzela no iphone 100 gorillion dead" is a meme because what you describe is such a pervasive phenomenon. Really, as Roderic Day asserts, people just want a license to believe that the system that they believe benefits them is morally just. The way out is showing that a better world is indeed possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

We might just have to wait for China to definitively surpass the west, and act as an example of what could be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My favorite is “I lived through the Cold War”, as though being a veteran of propaganda saturation makes them an authority.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I lived through the cold war and believed most of the propaganda. The layers of the propaganda onion are seemingly infinite. It took about 20 years to peel them all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

the other alternate version "i lived through communism" is just as dumb if not dumber.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If you want to understand the itch that tinyman square scratches for some people online, and why they’re hostile toward attempts at dispelling those myths, read False Witness from the “Brainwashing” series.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Oh thanks, I love me some Red Sails. :)