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I really want to ditch spotify, but its just so convenient to be able to search and stream music on any device at a moments notice. Not to mention the fact that its integrated with a music player that can quickly queue up, or add to playlist a searched song. Is there any software (or collection of software) that can emulate the convenience of spotify?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

There is Nuclear. Note that sometimes songs can't be downloaded, though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

The testimonials on that page are just the best. I gotta try this app when I get back from work.

EDIT: Or maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago

Thank goodness for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Hmm certainly not nice seeing it shilling FB. There's also FreeTube (desktop) and NewPipe (mobile), though I didn't have nice experience with FreeTube—some basic features like creating a new queue are not there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Hmm certainly not nice seeing it shilling FB.

Either you're trolling or you aren't aware that YouTube, which you're shilling, is made by Google.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Not shilling youtube, freetube and such are third party ways to use youtube which basically require no account and get you to be anonymous. But also that person doesn't get that it was a joke

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Third party ways to use youtube still use youtube.

Absolutely proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

holy shit the testimonials, im dying

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I looked at one of the quotes on the frontpage where the user is litterally shitting on the software XD

Not claiming that Nuclear is bad or good, but it was kind of unexpected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

I just took a look (didn't before) and lol every of them were shitting on it (some of them are "piracy bad")

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Wow that's awesome!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

I believe the best way to ensure freedom over our music is to allow emigration without loosing your music collection. Not securing this freedom, will create needless dependency to the distributor.

If you leave spotify you loose your music collection. Even if you have spent hundreds of bucks on the service. In contrast, services like bandcamp allows you to download your music. So if you one day figure you want to ditch the service for something better, at least that won't be an headache.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Simple solution: get a torrent client for your phone like libretorrent, and vlc or any music player you like. Search sites like 1337x.to or my torrents-csv.ml for music. Click torrent, open music player.

More complicated one: install navidrome and qbittorrent on a home server, get the dsub and qbittorrent remote android apps. You now have a music server that you can add torrents to, and navidrome will auto add music from a watched folder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

NewPipe can play youtube and soundcloud and bandcamp songs in the background.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

You have to get on private torrent sites. Redacted , orpheus, etc. That coupled with Lidarr is pretty good. Just having the curated music catalog is amazing. I pay for multiple streaming services and buy music on Bandcamp and still go to torrent sites for recommendations and convenience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

I have RevoTT, but could always use some more privates. Have any invites available?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Your problem requires 2 separate solutions:

  • The player:

My suggestion is Pulse Music because the user interface is a clone of Spotify, with all the features you already know and like.

  • The actual music data:

Spotify plays from "the cloud" (which is just a fancy word for "someone else's computer"). You can't keep many MP3 on your phone internal MicroSD, so you need to play them in streaming from something which is always turned on (i.e.: a NAS, or a Raspberry Pi). That means having a "DynamicDNS" to access this device, a music streaming server (or a filesharing server), and a port forward on your modem-router.

If you can't do that on Linux keep in mind Synology and Qnap NAS already include the DynamicDNS for free and the music streaming app, and also the torrent client! The price is very low for single bay drives (for models with RAID drives the price goes up to hundreds of €$)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

You can’t keep many MP3 on your phone internal MicroSD

I disagree, if you're storing your music in MP3 or any other lossy format, such as AAC or Ogg Vorbis, with a bitrate of 320kbps, a 4 minute pop song will take up 10MB of storage in my experience. 32GB of storage is going to get you storage for 3200 songs.

Maybe that isn't enough for you, but I've been using a 64GB SD card for years now and it still hasn't filled up completely. I've got 1557 songs on there, good for 3 days and 7 hours of music, taking up 27.80 GiB of space. Less than I told before, but I tend to store most of my music as FLAC with average filesizes of 30MB per song because I'm to lazy to re-encode the files.

I wonder what the size of your music library is if it doesn´t fit on a SD card.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

My current music library sits at 2.4TB.

I personally host it alongside my Movies and TV Shows library on Plex, and sync a portion of it using PlexAmp­.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

That's impressive! In that case, I can imagine using your phone's storage or MicroSD being very impractical, although for tiny music libraries it certainly is a less complex option than the server-client setup.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I download all music using Nicotine+ which uses the soulseek protocol, you can find the weirdest of shit there, and I use Lollypop to play on my PC, when I want to listen to some on my phone and I don't have wifi I just dump a couple albums there, if not I use NewPipe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

This is by far the best answer. Having the music locally is crucial, and sharing is even more awesome. Although this doesn't solve the problem of music discovery. Spotify is very convenient to find new tracks you may or may not like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

True, but I don't need discovering that much since to me it is a natural process of rabbit holing where I generally end up finding stuff through other stuff. Using RateYourMusic also works if you follow cool people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

good thing about having shit local is that you got the .flac files and it sounds perfect, maybe spotify does this but Im sure theres a bit of quality loss

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Lidarr and Subsonic maybe, but I don't have tested yet

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)