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[–] duckythescientist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why is her hand so tiny in the second one

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

perspective is hard

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 61 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I'd rather have my country die for me."
-James Joyce (as Stephen Dedalus)

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Abolish a person 🙅🏽‍♂️ Abolish a state ☑️

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

This is why I hate it when people say stuff like “Do you support [state]’s right to exist?” No, no I don’t. I don’t think any state has a “right” to exist. People have a right to exist. A state is something different entirely.

[–] EmK 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I wish I could upvote this more...

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Careful, you mention hating the state get everyone riled up. Conservatives, Liberals, Communists, all of them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Conservatives, Liberals, Communists

Conservatives: "I want a state that exists to brutalize the third world on my behalf and cycle me through anxiety/relief of foreigners/BIPOCs on TV"

Liberals: "I want a state that will subtly extract value from the proletariat so I can gamble on it in the market and kill anyone who resists in an overseas black site."

Communists: "I want a state that will coordinate labor between sectors and preserve the civil rights of citizens under a well-organized and easily navigate-able proletarianized bureacracy."

Lemmy: "I hate these fucking Tankies."

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Really, just about anybody that looks to historical examples to inform their perspective.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There are examples of non states working, but it is unclear if it would be possible to maintain large societies.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Non-states or weak states very quickly run into collective action problems which are made significantly worse at large scales. Generally, they work when the material conditions allow for it, for example, the Zapatistas are in rural mountains that nobody really cares that much about. If they happened to be sitting on top of a bunch of oil, then the situation would be quite different.

States are the most effective means of solving collective action problems that currently exist. Even the fundamental goal of keeping people safe from other states cannot be achieved in most cases without some degree of centralization. "I can't go up and defend the pass, I have to stay here and protect my farm." That's what decentralization gets you, and the result is that the enemy, who is solving such collective action problems through the mechanism of a state, is (generally) able to subdue each individual with overwhelming force. But it extends beyond defense, "I can't help build that bridge so we can all trade with our neighbors, I have to tend to my crops or I'll starve." While these problems can be solved on a very small scale, on a local level where people know and trust each other, it generally cannot be scaled up to similar situations beyond that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

There are examples of non states working

:-/

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (52 children)

Especially on an ml instance. I'm waiting forssome bozo to post Engels' "on authority" again.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

ML's explicitly are anti-state and believe it to be in charge of managing irreconcilable class differences so it must be destroyed and replaced with something else. This is written explicitly in Lenin's State and Revolution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Almost, MLs understand that the state is necessary until class is abolished, so what replaces the bourgeois state is a proletarian state that withers with respect to collectivization of production and distribution. Revolution for MLs doesn't get rid of the state overnight, but creates a new state that cannot but wither.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (102 children)

I do think hating socialist states with the same or worse ferocity that capitalist states get is a serious misjudgement. Administration is necessary for large scale production and distribution, whether you count that as a state or not. Communism as a stateless, classless, moneyless society would have no class, but would still have administration.

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao, the consistent dunking on the ml instance has got to be my handsdown favorite meta joke on Lemmy.

And the fact that the upvote to downvote ratio is perfectly split is chef's fucking kiss, hahahahaaa

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[–] nomorebillboards@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In 100 years people are gonna look back on these 'phobes in the same way that we look back at slave owners... ignoring the fact that a lot of the 'phobes would probably be okay with modern slaves anyways.

[–] Renat@szmer.info 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right, I'm in BDSM relationship with another femboy.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And this right there, is true love. The queerer, the better.

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[–] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The people of a country should not live in fear of the state. To the contrary, it is the country that should fear it's people.

[–] HugeNerd 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Who should fear the superfluous apostrophe?

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