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Originally, the protest was planned to be 48 hours. However, after a shambolic AMA held by Reddit's CEO, it has become clear to us that Reddit doesn't intend to act in good faith. When the CEO is willing to lie and spread libellous claims about another third-party developer, and then try double down by vilifying them, again, in an AMA, despite being proven as a liar by the developer through audio recordings, that's when we knew what we were up against. Therefore, the subreddit will be privatised until such time as a reasonable resolution is proposed.

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[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I wonder how long it takes until admins take over the communities

[–] other_world@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have a feeling all of the default subs will be taken over pretty quickly. The small subs will be forgotten about.

[–] PunsNRoses@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't think the subs should go private, but rather they should just get straight-up abandoned. The admins will have a much harder time dealing with all the unmoderated content that will inevitably show up, and it will look way worse to advertisers.

[–] probodyne@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think anarchychess is planning exactly that. They're private today (Sunday) and going unmoderated on Monday.

[–] DestroyMegacorps@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The chaos that's gonna ahppen is gonna be on the same level as Y2K and the miiverse last 30 minutes

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

That just give Reddit an out for taking over subs, saying they are unmoderated.

If they go private then Reddit would need to forcibly take over the subs without a proper reason for doing it.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

theres even more precedent of them taking over unmoderated subs

[–] rlhe@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Hm, I like this idea -- the content is what values Reddit.

[–] Nankeru@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's what I expect to happen as well. Nothing stops them from kicking out the current mods / admins, replacing them with new mods willing to take over and continue as before (or even use AI moderation tools to minimize the efforts).

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Who though? Who wants to mod a community that big, for a company that will throw mods under the bus, for a company that is burning bridges with developers instead of finding reasonable compensation, for a company that that is so bad at supporting mods mods have to rely on third parties to support (which they are also burning bridges with), for a company that is "not profitable", for a company that is laying people off, not hiring.

AI moderation? No way they will "meet increasing regulatory compliance" with that.

What a fucking shitshow. There are just no words for how big of a whole Reddit has dug itself.

[–] Fingerblaster007@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plenty of shills and ass kissers willing to do the deed. The roles will get filled quickly by them

[–] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Except they don't know how to mod

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

gotdamn... that was an indictment. well said.

[–] olivebuffalo@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

wish more would go out indefinitely, this is great

[–] jason@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Won’t matter. Based on recent behavior I’d expect any reasonably large sub to be forcibly reopened by the admins after a couple days. If the current mods won’t cooperate then they’ll be replaced by the hordes who want to go on a power-trip.

[–] rlhe@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This scenario has happened before, has it not? Why would anyone expect that Reddit will respond differently this time and walk back their plans?

[–] Isotretinoin@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

That doesn't mean though that we ,as a community ,shouldn't try and change them .

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

We should all act like power-trip addicts and ask Reddit to make us the new mods. And then when they do that we just black out the subs again.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago

Damn it's all crashing down isn't it

[–] Yahhas@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is great! But the problem is they're probably just going to replace the admins/mods w/e they're called that control the subreddit and just open it up again...

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There was some mods discussing this on Tildes, and the mods seemed to think that replacing them wouldn't be as easy as people make it out to be. Mods apparently have a wealth of institutional knowledge that is required due to the lackluster default mod suite, and apparently the admins rely on them to come up with their own solutions to issues. Replacing the mods sounds like it will reduce the quality of the content but also will be a big headache for any new mods to jump in. Reddit may not give a shit and they may think it won't significantly affect investor interest, but I wonder if us regular users will notice a difference. Hell, there's already been a difference over the past 10 years.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You think reddit cares about that?

The title says /r/iPhone has almost 4 million subscribers, they'll find replacement mods in the blink of an eye.

But it will still hurt them, immensely. All these people on lemmy are proof of that, moderation quality on reddit will also go down and the site's reputation will be permanently tarnished.

Millionaires are not qualified to run social media websites.

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Right, that's what I'm saying - I'm curious if we'll notice a quality drop in content, if the majority of users who stay will notice or care, and how that will affect Reddit's bottom line and investor opportunities.

[–] lolzacksnyderfans@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It's mostly just creative automod rules, it's not that big a deal and plenty of users would come up with solutions in short order.

[–] Wigglet@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think thats naive..they will be replaced it just might not be well.

Mods if you see this, nuke the sub on the way out. Remove all older posts if you can

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Right, that's what I'm saying - replacement may be easy, but those mods were suggesting a hit to quality. Something tells me Reddit is ready for widespread nuking and has a backup solution to handle that, but it would be lovely to see it all go down. Can't wait to see what Reddit looks like after all these Subreddits finish going dark.

[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit CEO and his other gangsters don't even care ... it's nice though that everyone's protesting on Reddit, I love that! Sad truth is just that they don't really care, least everyone can do is leave the platform but that's not going to happen. Also, I truly don't understand why they don't move here?

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I rather like it here tbh. It has more of that old school forum-y feel to it and while the concept of the fediverse was strange and confusing, just a couple days of wandering around and clicking the things made me a lot more comfortable. I don’t foresee going back to Reddit, personally.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The learning curve is definitely steeper here, which will be a barrier to a lot of the most casual users.

[–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago

This is the inevitable problem that pushed me to Lemmy. Even if we win this battle over 3rd party apps, we'll lose the war because Reddit Admins hold all the cards.

[–] PeaPanties@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

The only way Reddit can change if majority/ all of the unpaid mods completely stop moderating.

This will be bigger than less quality contents as without moderation Reddit will be bigger cesspool than it is now.

And once that happens, common users will stop using Reddit and thus slowly killing it like Tumblr or Digg.

[–] jason@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Won’t matter. Based on recent behavior I’d expect any reasonably large sub to be forcibly reopened by the admins after a couple days. If the current mods won’t cooperate then they’ll be replaced by the hordes who want to go on a power-trip.

[–] bowreality 2 points 2 years ago

I think it does matter. Not everybody can replace everybody immediately. A lot of people a lurkers and sheeples. You always have a core of excellent people that carry the community. Mods (mostly) are really the glue who holds the sub together. And you have a few key people that create amazing content, several that round it out and those if you lose … good night.

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