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Elizabeth Warren, Josh Hawley, Support Bill Calling For Online Digital ID Age Verification (reclaimthenet.org)
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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If you were one of few pinning your hopes for Senator Elizabeth Warren to have your back as a user of the free internet – the latest legislative efforts she has been heavily backed might just burst your bubble.

The same goes for those who had the same hopes regarding the activities of Senator Josh Hawley. These two – a prominent Democrat, and a Republican of the same stature – have thrown their weight behind what’s known as the Kids Online Safety Act [PDF].

Online age verification through digital ID is one of its proposed provisions – a topic, and practice, at this point historically burdened with controversies regarding endangering internet users’ privacy and safety, while cynically asserting to be “solving” just the very problem.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh my god Warren every time I think you have your head on straight, you inject yourself into some tech-related thing that you have NO FUCKING CLUE about and then try to push it in a completely fucking idiotic direction.

Maybe consider that Hawley is a psychopath, and, like, think real hard before making common cause with the guy on literally anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the PACs that supports her backs this

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Let’s just add that to the pile of idiocy labeled “please can we destroy the Citizens United ruling”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there any point to these laws? Aren’t the younger generations usually more tech savvy and this will just make it hard for boomers to use the internet?

And aren’t these laws all easily by passable by using a free online proxy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It all boils down to the fact that in thr U.S, it cant be enforced because our identity and SSN are tied together, and losing said SSN would be VERY detrimental, so companies cant ask for it (unless they have government approval of course).

In countries like Korea, KSSNs for example are used for registration purposes and more like IDs, while monetary business like banks would ask for TIN/RRN (Tax Identification number/Resident Registration Number). This distiction allows for online checks to process fine as SSN is essentially name, birthdate and very very basic details only. Korea uses it for instance to monitor game time of minors.

Because the U.S does not have distiction between IDs, theres absolutely no way without security problems without risk of identity theft because U.S SSN are used for extremely critical things like loans and banking.

[–] MisterD 1 points 2 years ago

This makes so much sense. For that reason, it can't happen in the US

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Think I'm starting to become an ageist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Warren and Hawley? Oh they can both fuck off. Warren twisted the knife on Bernie and Hawley exists as himself, being Josh Hawley every day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Well fuck her too then!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would this help against pedophiles like Matt gaetz?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

No, but they'll get to scan your face and surroundings every time you want to use a computer.

[–] MisterD 2 points 2 years ago

The fascists need a way to track people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The chickenshit Hawley?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

She might support this, or she might have signed onto it without reading the details

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She also supports other anti online freedom stuff, I think that's just her genuine position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

She's just a blue fascist. We don't need to find excuses for her. Her actions say it all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She co-sponsored it, so I imagine she and her staff know full well what the details are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You'd think so but I wouldn't bet on it. I still hold her accountable for her action though.