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After seeing what happend on r/antiwork over at Reddit. Does Lemmy have a way to prevent somthing similar, like could another instance decide to preserve a deleted community and not have a single point of failure?

The same question can be asked if an instance suddenly closes down, can other instances keep the communities alive?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

The admins have the ability to and reserve the right to appoint a new head mod to any community on their local instance. We actually do it semi often on Lemmy.ml, you can request to become the mod of a community if it has no mods, or all the mods have been inactive for several months.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Maybe I am wrong here but I think it's not a big deal. If people can't joint a new sub if one crashes they weren't very involved anyways so it's mostly about imagined reach that's lost.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Also I am not sure there's a good technological solution for this problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

If an instance goes down, then pretty all much all data on that server will not be accessible. So the communities, posts and users on that instance will be gone.

Maybe lemmy can implement something similar to the matrix protocol.

Matrix is really a decentralised conversation store rather than a messaging protocol. When you send a message in Matrix, it is replicated over all the servers whose users are participating in a given conversation - similarly to how commits are replicated between Git repositories. There is no single point of control or failure in a Matrix conversation which spans multiple servers:

So a community will remain accessible even if the homeserver goes down

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago

If an instance goes down, then pretty all much all data on that server will not be accessible.

Also wanna add, that if any servers have been federating with communities that live on a dead server, they will still have a backup of all those pushed posts and comments ( which starts happening immediately after one person subscribes to that remote community).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

That would dramatically increase server resources necessary though

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

yep that is a problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I think the only solution really is probably to self host. Or, for multiple instances to have duplicate instances and to cross post on all the communities. You already see this happening, especially with COVID communities across Lemmy and Lotide, but also with news and tech communities I think

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

what about an option to allow users to say... back up a community, and then fork it? A few fans back up a community each day. Mod power trips deletes the sub or prevents propor discussion, someone forks it. would be like if /r/workerreform could start automatically with the /antiwork posts.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

title of that post :
"Thoughts on r/antiwork drama and implications for Lemmy" by Yogthos
2022-01-26 /29 comments so far

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