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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Before everyone gets angry, they're not saying that they're gonna purposely pick more players of different ethnicities. They're saying that they're working on encouraging more of them into football

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit gets very testy whenever the topic of diversity in the workforce comes up, even when the context is as tame as "We'd like to make sure that everyone feels there's a possibility of finding successful employment here".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You say that, but Arsenal are literally responding to freaks getting angry on Twitter about their team photo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a sensible and actually admirable example of it to be fair. Recent "diversity pushes" like the RAF actively rejecting candidates because they were white was abhorrent.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nowt to get testy about. Cream always rises to the top.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ramsdale might become starter for Arsenal after all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ariana Ramsdale

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Lmao what a comment well done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Because skin colour or ethnicity should not lower or increase your chances to become a pro football player.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The virtue isn’t gonna signal itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

White men are gathering in this thread

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As a white CIS male aged 18-34 I have multiple opinions on this. Please tune into my podcast for further discussions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Heaven forbid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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Just pick the best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

People saying "What" in the comments clearly haven't read the article and jumping to conclusions.

It's not hard to see the glaring differences between women's and men's football in the UK. While a lot of Premier League stars are from working class backgrounds, most WSL players are from middle class families instead.

Supporting grassroots, accessible women's football is only going to help in giving young girls opportunities in life, and spots talent which would never get the chance otherwise.

Good on them for recognising this tbh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, once you read the article it makes perfect sense. Glad we're gonna be spearheading this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah that’s a pretty uncommon level of self awareness from my recollection. Hopefully this starts something with some positive impact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Football is one of the cheapest sports to play. You just need one ball that cots 10pounds and 20 kids can have fun on the street. All those working class girls need is a desire to play football which they obviously don't have. And it is not an opportunity either... the mean salary in WSL is £47,000. This is if you become one of the best 400 football players in the country (which is extremely difficult, by the way). This is by no means an opportunity for those girls... they are better of studying and becoming doctors, lawyers, etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All those working class girls need is a desire to play football which they obviously don't have

I'm getting strong "Look at the Lobster, for example" vibes here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Whatever happened to the best person for the job?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Inflammatory headline but very much worth a read. It's more about class, recruitment and the fact it doesn't happen very naturally in the women's game.

My fuckin club 💪🏾

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed, way to few men in the their womens team

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is an issue in women's football in England more generally. Looking at the percentage of the men's and women's England football teams that are black or mixed race, there's a stark difference. Black girls clearly aren't getting the same opportunities at youth and grass roots levels as black boys, and the barriers that girls face getting into football obviously disproportionately affect working class girls and girls from ethnic minority backgrounds. It'll take time to change it, but it will pay dividends in the long term.

This country also needs to shed a lot of its prejudices about other ethnic minority groups in football, particularly South Asian people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Looking forward to Crystal Palace's statement on their lack of diversity for the Men's team.

The French Men's national team should release a statement too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is a perfectly reasonable statement acknowledging a systemic lack of diversity in women's football, and commiting to long term solutions to grow women's football around the world. Anyone who actually read this article could not possibly get upset by this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Absolutely appalling that this statement had to be made.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Whats wrong with people? This sounds like OCD intrusive thoughts!!! It's not wrong to look the same as long as fair chance is given to everyone. We just don't pick diversity to be diverse. If they're not talented, they won't make the team. As simple as that!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Pick those who are the most competent not the most diverse. Ffs this is beyond absurd 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Fucks sake, who gives a toss what colour their skin is. Priority should be people who can pass a ball

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Is it really such a crime for your XI to have the same skin colour? Are 11 white people not allowed to be together without it requiring a club statement anymore?

Fucking hell man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Disgusting the world we live in where being white is considered racist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I used to get down about silly threads like this but these days I genuinely find the pearl clutching hilarious

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand why people have a problem with this. The squad is pretty much entirely white. That is not representative of North London.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The lack of diversity in the current crop of Arsenal and England players is down to the same thing that has held women’s football back: access.

The sharp rise in popularity of women’s football has coincided with a huge increase in quality, which came about because more people are given access to play at a younger age.

There are still issues where lack of facilities mean that girls’ teams effectively get disbanded at a certain age, but what is currently available is a significant growth from the FA literally banning women for 50 years, but it is far from universal. You don’t need to be a sociologist to understand that when you’re in the process of improving access to facilities, the richer schools in areas with more space will get there first, and poorer inner city schools will be behind.

The result of this will create a skew where the currently crop of elite footballers are disproportionately white. As access increases in communities that are more mixed, in part because of these commitments from clubs like Arsenal, you’ll see things start to balance out and start to look more like the men’s demographic makeup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is fucking stupid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Won’t be happy till every team is just Black.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And not the best players as a priority?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Or how about they judge players based on skill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Problem would be solved easily if the ladies spoke to Ben White on tanning advice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Forced diversity is not the move. Unless the team is deliberately kept white, there should be no issue.

You have to start this at the grassroots level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That's bullshit, I don't know their nationality but isn't it just nice if you have more British players as a club in UK? I hate how my club often only has one native player in their starting 11.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

So they are willing to take less qualified players for diversity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Do you not develop, sign and play the best team you can, to win as many games as possible? This is embarrassing.

If diversity is an area they want to improve, they should focus on youth development and community programmes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is a joke?

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