Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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This article by DuckDuckGo promotes Apple as a "private" alternative to Google. Apple promotes itself as privacy friendly, but it is not so. What is wrong with Apple.
The FSF warned about this in 2019. Any "privacy movement" that promotes proprietary software and attacks the free software (a.k.a. FOSS) movement is not one I want to be associated with.
A "degoogled" world is still a "facebooked", "amazoned", "microsofted" world. We need decentralized alternatives in general.
Yes! Start living the fediverse way.
> Google Search -> DuckDuckGo
There are more private solutions, such as SearX.
> YouTube -> Vimeo
You can't be serious...
> Google Maps -> Apple Maps
No.
> Android -> iOS
Is this post just an Apple shill, or something? Why?
> Google Chrome -> Safari
Okay, it IS an Apple shilling post...
> Google Chrome -> Brave/Vivaldi
Oh God... are these REALLY private solutions? SERIOUSLY??
> Google Hangouts -> FaceTime/Microsoft Teams
I give up.
"spreadprivacy.com"? Where is the privacy part? All they are doing is make people drop Google for other corporate solutions! Doing so we're just giving our data to other corporations instead of Google! Is this really the solution? Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, Netflix... all of them should be avoided as much as possible.
Do you want private solutions? OBLITERATE. ANY. KIND. OF. CORPORATE. SOFTWARE.
I'm sorry if I sound rude or aggressive, but this post is bullshit and it's just spreading misinformation. It doesn't provide any help, the opposite, it's just promoting the use of more coporate software instead of FLOSS and decentralized solutions made by the community.
Do you want private solutions? OBLITERATE. ANY. KIND. OF. CORPORATE. SOFTWARE.
I love that!
It should be obvious to anyone working for any sizable corporate. It needs to be communicated to all.
Android is already open source though. I don't see how going to the closed-sourced iOS is any kind of improvement.
I've managed to remove several Google services from my normal use pretty easily. I actually pay for email now. I have to get back into using Open Street Maps, so if anyone knows a good client that would be appreciated!
Sadly, I'm still stuck on an Android phone. I didn't realize it at the time, but the phone I bought isn't supported by LineageOS and the like, so I'm kind of stuck for now.
Osmand is great, especially for hiking its better than google maps. Only disadvantage is that it has almost no businesses listed.
hehe I use it for hiking too. But yeah the lack of addresses and businesses is really unfortunate.
Oh wow! I didn't think to try it for hiking. Thanks for the idea!
Seconded. Did a test of OSMAnd and Google Maps (latter on my dad's phone) on a 50km car trip in January, and OSMAnd+ was superior for us in India.
For open street map, Magic Earth is decent, though it is proprietary. They still have a good privacy policy and aren't in the advertising business so its clearly a step up from Google maps.
Thanks! I'll have a look!
Haha! I've always avoided the proprietary OSM clients because it's not 100% FOSS. But you're right! It's still better than Google Maps.
OSMAnd and the fork of MAPS.ME are FLOSS.
However, in the first one, avoid the nonfree complements and services (Mapillary is an example).
Have you tried Organic Maps yet? (I believe this is the "fork of maps.me" referenced in this thread)
You are all amazing!!!
I'm going to try out these suggestions over the next few weeks and put together a post with my experience.
Oof for the last part 😓
I use organic maps and it works really well
Client for the phone or on the desktop? What OS do u use?
For my Android phone. Something with good driving directions preferably.
Looks like a couple good suggestions on this thread. I'll have to give them a try!
I'd love to but they use google services at work so I'd have to quit my job to do so sadly
You can still start by your personal life. We all must make some compromises.
True!
I actually don't use google at all outside of work. For following youtube channels I use something called https://www.newsblur.com/ for my RSS feed so my feed can be the same on several devices and computers, if that is of any help to anyone!
I really don’t see DDG as an alternative.
Can you explain why?
(Just out of curiosity.)
I guess it's because it's hosted in the US on Microsoft Azure
More than that, it doesn't have its own indexes, most of them come from ms bing, see: https://lemmy.ml/post/43595/comment/22034
Has DDG mentioned what data, if any, they send to those indexes? I'm just wondering if, say Bing, just sees a single "user" for DDG with all the searches. Then at least your query is obfuscated among all the rest. Still not ideal, but better than Google anyway I think. I also think that's how Searx works.
I hope they do. But I can't really tell. Searx is another thing, since its code is FLOSS, and there are instances on different countries...
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Thanks for linking this thread though.
And what about Startpage?
The problem is that it isn't free software. I recommend using Searx
I used Startpage recently because @[email protected] recommend it here: https://dessalines.github.io/essays/favorite_apps_and_services.html
LMAO Apple shilling post, r/privacy 2000 upvote 10 award material
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