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[–] downtothetraintracks@feddit.de 42 points 2 years ago
[–] GuyDudeman@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wagner Group are literal Nazis, so... Let Them Fight, I guess?

[–] Vilian 2 points 2 years ago

i mean, russia army aren't so different, so let them fight

[–] khalic@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If not psy-ops, looks like a long night ahead for russia…

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Russian state associated media has confirmed it.

[–] kent_eh 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russian state associated media has confirmed it.

That doesn't mean a lot.

They don't have much of a working relationship with the truth.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it's safe to say that if the Russian state media says the FSB want to arrest him, then the FSB probably do want to arrest him.

[–] DulceMaria@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Prigozhin posted a series of angry video and audio recordings in which he accused Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu of ordering a rocket strike Friday on Wagner’s field camps in Ukraine, where his troops are fighting on behalf of Russia.

Prigozhin said his troops would now punish Shoigu in an armed rebellion and urged the army not to offer resistance.

”This is not a military coup, but a march of justice,” Prigozhin declared.

[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I guess it has to be said, are the videos authentic? I haven't seen anyone in the media outlets question the veracity or claim the they have been determined to be genuine.

If they are, this is a weird fucking twist and I can only believe the Prigozshin feels that the Russian regulars are so weakened and separated that he has the ability to extract whatever justice* he feels he is due. But, also, did he have a gay lover who was killed in that missile strike? That's the only reason I can think that he would march to extract revenge without just being clear that he's planning to take over the country.

[–] StaticBoredom@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well well, this is getting more interesting. Still not sure how this will play out. Mark Galeotti’s excellent book Putin’s Wars mentions several wannabe warlords whose escapades came to quick and bloody ends at the hands of Russian special forces or the FSB.

I’m actually a bit surprised Comrade Shitheel Prigozhin hasn’t met the same fate. Perhaps his Wagner wall of meat is still seen as having service to render to the Kremlin.

I don’t at all see Prigozhin as a leadership threat to Putin, but I like that he and Strelkov and Kadyrov are all busy trying to one up each other’s stupidity. I’m all for it as long as it hastens Russia’s battlefield defeat. If it leads to Russia’s decolonization, all the better.

[–] StaticBoredom@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Speaking of which, this is a fascinating project.

https://russiadecolonized.com/

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Didn't the Russian special forces suffer a pretty big set-back when trying to land in some Ukrainian airfield back at the start?

[–] editediting@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spicy. Ukraine's counteroffensive is getting better by the day.

[–] Bobo_Palermo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Would love to see a vacant hole that Ukraine can use to take back what Russia stole.

[–] Fearofthefamiliar@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His arrest? I thought this was the point where they'd try to kill him

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, they're going to arrest him, but he shot himself twice in the back of the head and fell 5 stories before they could move in with the cuffs.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This joke will never get old

Just like Russian journalists!

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The plot thickens! We will be watching his career with great interest.

[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago
[–] anthoniix@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I honestly don't know if I believe any of this. It could be one big distraction, and I think the people in high positions of power are skeptical as well.

[–] demvoter@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] anthoniix@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It is not like US officials are respected for telling the truth.

Fog of war over Ukraine is really thick. I belive no one until it ends.

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

US officials also claimed that Russiagate was real and Hunter Biden's laptop was fake. They have less than no credibility.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate the US as much as anyone, but your argument is that they were correct about two out of two listed events, so they have no credibility?

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you think either of those events was real, you are not qualified to comment on any news about anything.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have it on good authority that jr, kushner, and manafort met with Russian agents to get dirt on hillary clinton. Jr admitted it and said he'd do it again.

Let me guess you also believe trump declassified documents just by thinking about it.

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

None of that has anything to do with Russiagate. You are proving your ignorance.

[–] Vilian 1 points 2 years ago

Hunter Biden's laptop was fake

it wasn't?

[–] phosphorik@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Well so much for the “authorized by the Kremlin” idea.

[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Wonder how the rebels at Belgrod will react to this.

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