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Honest question. Is it him or is it his situation?

If Bryce was in Houston and Stroud was in Carolina, would the result follow the player or the team? That's the mystery of the NFL.

Is Betteridge a bust?

No, the Panthers just suck.

Troy aikman was 0-11 his first year in 1989 with 155/293 att for 1749 yds 9td-18int so no Bryce Young isn't a bust based on his rookie debut

TL;DR: Maybe

Expectations for rookies to perform immediately are too high. I know it’s fun to see guys like Stroud light it up but that’s the exception. Gotta give these guys more time to develop before putting them in the bust discussion, especially when they’re on a broken offense.

Why we even bothering with a question like this when he hasn't even completed his rookie season

I don’t think there are many QB’s in the NFL that would do well with that offense. He’s in a terrible situation. The situation he’s in is why guys like Eli Manning, and John Elway did what they did.

Not yet, but I would put money on him busting.

He is one of the most physically unimpressive NFL players I have ever seen, with a noodle arm and basic athleticism.

That supercomputer brain better get going....

While he hasn't been good, the standard rule of headlines is that if the headline is a question, the answer is "no".

So he is legally not a bust.

As someone who didn’t think he’d amount to anything at all: it’s been half a season on a dogshit team. Give the dude until the end of his rookie deal to pass judgement

He’s a rookie, can we chilll out?

I think he legit needs to sit and watch and get reset for 2024. His OL and skill players around him are shit and he has no trust in anyone other than Thielen. Build the offense around him this offseason and he'll look much better in 2024.

Its been half a season. Come on man.

No, people are just less patient now more than ever.

Way too early to call that. He's not on a good team. He has very few offensive weapons. His WR1 is 33 year old Thielen. They are a poor running team. West Coast offense is about getting playmakers the ball in space. They don't have great playmakers. Young is pretty accurate given the limitations they have, and doesn't throw a ton of picks. I would give it some time.

Nah.

I think he'll look like Tua next season. But his arm is at most "average".

...and I think you'll see Stroud come back to earth and look sus next season.

Yup time to trade him for a conditional 7th rounder. Time for the Andy Dalton era baby!

It's silly to even be having this conversation this early in his career. He has decent stats for a rookie QB especially since he doesn't have much to work with and has Frank Reich as a HC. Cj being phenomenal is not anything Young can control

Yes

His best WR is Adam Thielen maybe we give him more than 10 games

Three things are true:

1. it’s way too early to call him a bust
2. Carolina is doing him NO favors
3. he’s playing poorly

It’s been what 12 weeks and all he has is Thieln as his wideout. With a coaching staff that seems to be a miss. They changing play callers every few weeks.

You absolutely cannot call Bryce Young a bust at this point. He is disappointing and on the bust trajectory, but it is way too early to call him a bust. I think he is if nothing else adding on to the list of cautionary tales for drafting a premium rookie QB before you have the supporting cast for him.

can we stop labeling QBs busts while they are still a fucking rookie?

No

he hasn't even finished his first season yet for fuck's sake

Frank Reich and the Panthers. Dude is being handicapped from the jump

jesus stop

Definitely think it’s still kinda early to say. Needs to get some help on the line and a true #1 WR.

Would be nice if they had a more consistent run game. Oh and the problem may be Reich too

yes.

name one plus physical attribute bryce young has for an nfl quarterback, let alone a 1st overall franchise qb.

body/size, arm talent, legs, footwork, he’s lacking in every single one.

time, coaching, and supporting cast won’t change that.

Nah, but his current team is

This is stupid lmao. Chill!!!

Not yet

Alternately, is CJ Stroud Tom Brady?

Trevor Lawrence was equally as bad, Jared Goff was even worse, Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions and won 3 games.

What a clickbait article

Not yet, but it's trending that way

His projection had massive holes in his game that everybody somehow just ignored

He hasn't even played double digit games yet. Calm down.

Admittedly his outlook currently doesn't look promising but let's at least pretend to be patient.

This is absurdly ridiculous.

There were a million people asking the same about Lawerence after his rookie year. No one is asking that now

I think the whole team is a bust. That's the issue with the top QB's, they are usually with trainwreck teams so it's hard to get over the hump. I'd rather my son be the 21st pick than the 1st pick to be honest.

It’s still too early and the team around him is so bad it’s hard to honestly know how good he can be.

Holy fuck we're a few weeks into his rookie year with abysmal coaching and roster composition.

If Carolina gets him decent protection and receivers and he still looks like this? Then you can start waving red flags.

What a ridiculous knee-jerk question. I'm not even clicking to see if they say the obvious "No, it's way too early to discuss him being a bust" because why give click bait the ad revenue?

To me he 100% is. He has been one of the 3 worst QBs in the league

He is also 5'6 and 165 lbs and has 0 arm talent

He was carried at Alabama

Can't be carried in the NFL

No, but Josh Allen is.

unfortunately yes. #1 overall picks, especially at the QB position, elevate the guys around them. Bryce has not done that.

I predicted he would be the biggest bust in a decade because of his size. So far, he is a bust but it is pretty early still.

it’s been 10 games

He's an Alabama qb. Not many of them have done much, ever. A lot of their offensive talent has always bullied college, then become very mediocre in the NFL.

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