CraigOhMyEggo

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

You wanna say that to the whole community? I'm using it how it was designed to be used, following up on a previous message (and preceding another one) that also used it how it was designed to be used. And these were, in turn, responses to other things where people might say what you just said but haven't. The way to address an issue is not to leave/relocate like someone who was forcefully evicted.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

Which part don't you understand?

 

A few days ago, I asked if we could talk about things that happen outside the fediverse. I got a lot of different answers ranging from "yes" to "no" to "it depends". Hunting someone down somewhere and saying "ah ha I found Zezima on X" isn't the kind of thing I meant. This is.

That moment when an admin outright makes it absolutely clear if you read the room (those who remember past messages will be able to do that) that they're going around trying to get back at people and further complicate things for them, the instance in question being in spiteful response to a promotion. The incentive to weigh in is thus pre-existing, plus I am fediversally relevant because I have been accused of being them (not that I'm the only one), so I get the contagion.

It's a bit much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The whistlerverse is a good group of channels to resort to for info, as long as the topic isn't psychology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True, yes. In fact, this is the majority of cases I have encountered. But for the sake of devil's advocate, I wanted to represent the instances one might say are fair.

 

I don't have a good outlook on psychology as a field. It's all influenced by people for leverage and different countries can't even agree on what qualifies as what (e.g. the definition for social anxiety in one country could be considered the definition for agoraphobia in another). But I think watching Simon Whistler give a very debunked rundown on psychology ten years into his career was the last straw for me this week. Misrepresenting psychology has very annoying implications and it gets tiring to see it done over and over.

To use one example, he mentions the former Axis Power officers in WWII saying they were "just following orders", which led to the highly rigged Stanford Prison Experiment, which has never been able to be replicated with the same results. Why? They rigged it, some say to support those officers. Here is an instance where history clashes with psychology, because near the end of WWII, German officers started recruiting and enslaving the Jews they were capturing to do the very dirty work they previously inflicted on them. Did these poor souls succumb to the wickedness like the Stanford Prison Experiment and the officers who inspired it would suggest in court? No, they were traumatized and went insane, because this was not in their nature.

Modern psychology is littered with these false rules and expectations. I'm sure many of you have heard a number of them. Maybe you remember the Milgram Experiment or Stockholm Syndrome for example. So let's play a game. Look back into your life. Think of all the things you've experienced and how it all played out. Out of all these experiences, which ones can you talk about that you can point to and say "if conventional psychology was right, this event in my life would've never happened how it did?

Example: There is a rule in the field of psychology called the Prisoner's Dilemma. It says that if you question two people a certain way, they will be incentivized to spill beans and betray each other. Me and a friend were once arrested because he got into a fight because someone cheated on his sister and I sped him away. The officers tried inflicting the Prisoner's Dilemma on us, but we're both open books, to the point where we knew the whole point was we were willing to face whatever comes. The cops had nothing. They let us free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, despite their own rules, that's exactly what happened. Then he went to another place to make it even more personal, which inspired a question of mine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

As it happens, exactly a day later after I said anything, a famous science commentator dropped the first bombshell on this often-fidgeted-with topic, complete with the same cited sources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Heh, I am amused someone is referencing this thread (which I forgot about) for a book about the noosphere being a part of the fediverse and being federated (through a technology built by aliens that uses a combination of machines with airwaves and dream influencing to unify dreams, which is a part of the fediverse) and the fact the reason we might not realize we're in each others' dreams is because the appearances in the dreams differ in inconsequential ways in the same way multiple versions of redrawn scenes or parallel style fiction do due to being federated, with the occasional individual defederation.

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