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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The potential for exploitation is too high, absolutely not

Oh HA I didn't read properly and you answered the question already. Agreed!

WTF Quora

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmfao You're ignorant and a racist (based on your other posts). I am indian, in a wealthy country and every indian I know lives to be ancient because the cause of lower mortality in India is the same as the higher mortality in Hong Kong. Say it with me - poverty leads to more death. Wealthy people live longer.

You are so obviously a right wing shill with no critical thinking skills. Why are you on Lemmy?? Go away. I'm blocking you and I hope everyone else does. You're a fool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Most of what this person says is made up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I disagree entirely with all your claims including your original. People don't eat vegan because it's healthier, they do it because we treat animals like shit and are killing the planet.

Cattle are the No. 1 agricultural source of greenhouse gases worldwide. Source: https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable

Beef production cause greenhouse gas emissions through the agricultural production process and through land-use change. Source: https://www.wri.org/insights/6-pressing-questions-about-beef-and-climate-change-answered

Unsustainable dairy farming and feed production can lead to the loss of ecologically important areas, such as prairies, wetlands, and forests. Source: https://www.worldwildlife.org/industries/dairy

I won't get into how inhumane the slaughter of animals is but the vast majority of meat bought at your grocery store or chain restaurant was killed in a cruel way. I used to live smack dab in the middle of 3 slaughterhouses and that shit was like a david cronenberg film.

Not to mention the water pollution from the slaughterhouses. Slaughterhouses and animal processing facilities that produce beef, chicken, turkey and other animal products are major water polluters. Source: https://frontiergroup.org/blogs/blog/fg/map-us-slaughterhouses-shows-watershed-level-pollution

Less vegan source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/18/epa-sued-weak-standards-allow-slaughterhouses-pollute-waterways-meat-processing

Even more: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8694297/

I eat certain types of meat but let's not kid ourselves into thinking any of it is ethical. Propaganda, all of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your own source says "Nobody is arguing that trees are therefore bad for climate and should be cut down. Indeed, in most cases, their carbon storage capability easily outweighs their methane emissions. "

Please tell me what about cow burps outweighs their methane emissions to make the comparison to trees sound.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but we don't feed them seaweed. The article you linked says "There are approximately 1 billion cows used in the global meat and dairy industries, and, combined with other animals raised for livestock, are responsible for releasing the methane equivalent of some 3.1 gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every year. If cows were a country, they would be the world’s third-largest greenhouse-gas emitter, behind China and the U.S., and ahead of India." Your own source says you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

So basically everything you say in this entire post is nonsense that you made up with no sources. I left reddit to get away from this blather but I guess the internet is just filled with misinformation to make ourselves feel better huh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You say Hong Kong has a higher life expectancy but fail to say that study after study has shown that this is because they largely don't smoke and are economically affluent and therefore not subject to diseases of poverty. The correlation of them being meat eaters is not the cause of their longevity.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468266721002085#:~:text=Hong%20Kong's%20leading%20longevity%20is,development%20contributed%20to%20this%20achievement.

https://borgenproject.org/life-expectancy-in-hong-kong/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You say that heme iron is found only in meat as if we need it but iron from any source will give you your nutritional needs. Every Hindu on the planet has somehow survived without eating meat so it's weird to represent heme-iron as if it's somehow superior. Easier to absorb, yes, but also might give you colon cancer so it's kind of a mixed bag.

https://www.foodnerdinc.com/blogs/food-for-thought/iron

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/iron/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Only source I can find that beef are largely grass fed is various websites funded by the cattle industry. Citation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The only source I can find for the claim that beef is 97% family farms is the Kansas Livestock Association.

Most others say 98% of farms are family farms - not cattle farms, just farms, and then use a weird definition of family farm. Small family farms are 89% but there is no indication of how much of the cattle farms are family owned.

USDA says "Finally, large-scale and non-family farms dominate production of beef production and high value crops which include vegetables, fruits/tree nuts, and nursery/greenhouse products."

What's your source? Save me from digging, I'm tired lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wait, really? But what about all the pictures of the people being smushed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/38m68q/pictures_from_tiananmen_square_nsfwnsfl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

This link agrees with you and I guess some of the photos could be soldiers? But there's still a lot of nasty violence in those images https://www.criticalsocialworkpublishinghouse.com/post/1989-tiananmen-square-student-massacre-was-a-hoax

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