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We can not just tell someone “what you want is on kbin, use that instead”, because there will be different use-cases that kbin does not fulfill.

So instead, it's "let's beg Lemmy to fulfill these use cases that it currently does not". Got it. Makes total sense, and is not internally incoherent at all.

Definitely not just arguing for a monoculture.

No, they're not. Forums and content aggregators are significantly different in terms of user experience and, frankly, project goals.

One of the biggest differences between Reddit and forums is focus. A web forum is focused on a topic, and has sub-topics. Content aggregators are flat, and focused on, well, content aggregation. They're a mix between link aggregators and blogs. The modern version of them also involves user created and maintained discussion groups, where forums have set sub-topics and generally have site-wide moderation.

And modern forums, FWIW, have threaded comment chains.

Reddit and Reddit-like services are really quite shit at being forums. There's very little about the user experience that they have in common.

Remember when forums would be super active with, like, 500 users?

"Millions of users" is a vanity stat. The critical mass needed to keep a discussion group alive is actually quite small -- assuming you're interested in, you know, discussing things. So, how active "Lemmy" is is entirely dependent on which topics you're interested in.

Forums seem like the most natural use case for ActivityPub. I'm over the Reddit style UX, and absolutely ready to take a step back and try to pick an older jumping off point.

The thing is, mbin is right there if you want that kimd of functionality. There isn't really a reason why everything needs to evolve into omni-applications. It's better to have a broad ecosystem that has something for everyone, rather than a monopoly that's servibg everyone a compromise.

Just look at the Twitter mugrations in 2022, and the clammor for quote posts. Misskey was right there, giving them exactly what they wanted, but you couldn't speak the name of anything that wasn't "mastodon" because everyone is brand focused and context blind.

What OP wants exists. It's right there. It's just not named Lemmy.

Imagine being so deprived as to grow upwithour a typewriter.

Imagine publically outing yourself as an agist POS with impulse control issues and an inability to rank issues worth talking about in any kind of sane manner.

Doing this didn't make people check their behaviour online, it just showed them that they can be bigger assholes IRL and get away with it.

Or the genocide of indigenous peoples in North America, which alsi receives "resistance", of a somewhat apopleptic fashion.

"Why do they allow these people to gate communities on this website that allows just anyone to create and moderate communities??!?"

Don't comment in spaces where you don't respect the mods. You're just wasting your time. It's not like you have an inalienable right to an audience.

Tell me you played with strafe in 1993 and I'll never belueve another word out of your mouth.

Go on. Play like it's 1993 all over again.