Dude, I read everything that you wrote here. Every one of your replies. It's so sad to see that no one, literally no one, has actually agreed with what you said here.
It's scary how extreme left the whole community of Lemmy is. I'm not even a US citizen, and even if I were a US citizen, I wouldn't be a conservative by any means. I wouldn't be a full on extreme left winger eaither though. And it's just really confusing how the left, the side that is supposed to be empathic and understanding, scientific and logical and level headed, fails so hard to see how they come off to someone who hasn't taken a side. The leftists think of themselves as logical and sane and moral, while they see the other side as pure evil, and pure insanity, stubbornness and stupidity. Not realizing that at least, at least some of the things that they do and say, are extremely immoral, stupid, and illogical.
The left usually claims moral superiority, but I really don't think that's how they're coming off AT ALL to the average person or any neutral person at this point. They ALSO come off as immoral and evil. They ALSO come off as stupid and crazy.
Like here, just watch these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueoYTPnxPMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GHVJv8tSyo
It's from a conservative tech blogger, talking about just how many tech projects and communities are explicitly banning, and straight up silencing ANY opinion that differs from them. You don't have to be into tech at all to sympathize with the message of his videos.
In one of his videos he talks about how some people that threatened to literally kill him, were given a pass because they had otherwise the "Politically Correct" opinion, while people who even just questioned the choice of moderators, and how they were allowing these death threats to "Evil Right Wingers" to continue, were getting banned and silenced, having their messages being deleted.
It is horrifying, horrifying how the left who was once the party who would hear you out, listen to you, and empathize with you, has become the party that silences and advocates for extreme censorship of opinions. The party who has become so obsessed with creating echo chambers where everyone just agrees with each other and no mental exercise of any kind is needed. Echo chambers don't improve the situation. They only serve to radicalize you, and make you mentally lazy and impatient with any opposing opinion.
The party who was once about listening to different opinions and ways of living, has become the party that advocates for echo chambers. I have witnessed so, so many conservatives being banned from communities, and somehow, I REALLY haven't experienced the same phenomenon in right wing communities. They allow people who disagree with them to the community (eg. Trans people). Do they fight and argue with them? Yes. Do they call them names? Yes. But most of them actually don't kick the person out of the community just because they disagree with them. The left though? Absolutely. Somehow, having the slightest difference of opinion gets you kicked out of left wing communities.
The party who was once about being inclusive, has become about being extremely exclusive.
It's just so sad to see. I value free speech and agency above anything else. I don't care how "stupid" or "evil" your voice is. You should be allowed to talk. We shouldn't just grab stupid people by the throat and pull their vocal cords out with bare hands. Somehow though, something tells me that a dangerous portion of the Democratic party, now wants to do exactly that. If there was a button that you could push to just kill right wingers on the spot and erase them from the world, something tells me that a DANGEROUS portion of these empathic, understanding, logical, and level headed people, would instantly push the button. And that's horrifying, and very, very sad and disappointing to see.
And before anyone replies with a "But what about the paradox of tolerance!!!", let me say, the whole idea behind it is wrong. It essentially conveys that good people, should make bad people behave, otherwise bad people will hurt everyone and everything.
That's good and all, but firstly, how are you a 100% sure that you are on the good side of absolutely EVERYTHING??? Do you have knowledge of the future? Do you even know absolutely everything about anything RIGHT NOW?? If not, then silencing the opposing opinion, rejecting the mental exercise of arguing with people who would otherwise end up agreeing with you, and just silencing them in the name of the good, is exactly something that a fascist would do. I don't think any evil person thinks that they're evil. Almost every evil real life person, when asked, would tell you that they did what they did for the right reasons and because they genuinely thought that it was something that had to be done.
Secondly, it goes completely against free speech. I don't want anyone to silence bad, evil people, even if they are (somehow) objectively deemed as bad and evil. And no, claiming that free speech is allowed but that you're not exempt from the consequences of what you said, is again, something that a dictator, a fascist would say.
Exactly!!
Thank God, you get it.
This video (which was trending a while ago) explained it pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7GtDMTd3k
And to add to what you said, people have some huge misunderstandings about how Gen AI work. They think it somehow just copy pastes portions of the art it was trained on, and that's it. That's not the case AT ALL, it's not even close to that.
AI models should be allowed to be trained on copy righted data. If they shouldn't be allowed to do that, then humans shouldn't be allowed to do it either. Why do we give such advice to upcoming writers and musicians and artists, to consume the kind of content that they want to create in the future? To read the kind of books that they want to write like? To listen to the kind of music that they want to create? To look at pieces of art that they want to create? Should humans ALSO be limited to only publuc domain content?? I really don't think so.
Again, Gen AI models don't just copy paste stuff from their training set of data. They understand what makes up that piece of data. Just like a human does.
Thankfully, reasoning models like Deepseek-R1 have started to show the average person how an AI actually reasons and thinks about things and that they don't just spew stuff out of nowhere in the hopes that it makes some kind of sense, slapping pieces of their training data set together to write something that's barely comprehensible. The "Think" tags in such models really helped clarify some huge misunderstandings that some people had. Although, many many people are still left who have a really messed up view of how AIs work, and they somehow speak with such confidence about these topics with no knowledge of the technical details. It drives me nuts.