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Doesn't quite beat the “otolaryngologist and wiener sausages”.

Check out his ‘An Evening with Kevin Smith’ talks. He's actually pretty chatty.

Ironically, when Jason Mewes is on stage in these talks, he's mostly quiet.

Ah, so you're saying that some portion, perhaps very minuscule, of the audience, would be enamoured with the bad guys as role models.

But, you see, that's quite different from what I quoted originally as: “[these artists] romanticize the mafia and army nonetheless, and in general media glorifies its subject matter regardless of the author's intent“.

You seem to agree with me that a small share of especially stupid people would derive their own messaging from the art. This doesn't change the fact that this media, in general, does the critique quite alright, as opposed to what the above quote says.

You seem to agree with my position in the first paragraph.

No one is saying it’s ‘not allowed’ for people to make those things.

It's remarkable how you apparently listened in on my comment exchange with the aforementioned unnamed person. Truly impressive capability. Could you please cite the exact argument they presented, since you know it so dearly?

Just to clear it up for people who apparently don't realize it: I wasn't actually discussing Rowling with the above comment.

Why are you talking as if this argument doesn't generalize an interpretation by some section of the audience to general treatment of any and all such media wholesale? Did you miss the part where it says that the media in question romanticizes the depicted practices regardless of any intent of the author, or interpretation by the generally intelligent audience? You're saying that the stupidest possible understanding of the media is what all media should aim for, otherwise by that commenter's argument it shouldn't exist. I don't think you seriously realize how deranged this take is. It's straight up advocating for the 'Idiocracy' society.

Good art doesn't pander to the common denominator, it lifts the audience above it.

From what I've heard, 'TMNT' is basically a wide-reaching parody of the comic genre at the time. 'Daredevil' was one of the influences, just like noted in the Wikipedia article:

The concept parodied several elements popular in superhero comics of the time — the teenagers of New Teen Titans, the mutants of Uncanny X-Men and the ninja skills of Daredevil — combined with the comic tradition of funny animals such as Howard the Duck.

They developed a backstory referencing further elements of Daredevil: like Daredevil, the Turtles are altered by radioactive material, and their sensei, Splinter, is a play on Daredevil's sensei, Stick.

Idk how you read that article to have missed that. It's also been noted more than once before that the 'radioactive spill' or whatever by which the turtles are affected is supposedly the exact same incident that is Daredevil's origin story.

Yeah, I think I've heard of the 'no anti-war films' sentiment before, and vaguely heard that army recruiting increased after 'Full Metal Jacket', of all films. However, I don't agree that idiocy of some part of the public is a reason to write off army, mafia, or any such quasi-satire media wholesale, as the aforementioned commenter did. That position essentially says that it's not allowed to do critique of institutions and practices as part of 'entertainment' art (unless one hams it up to eleven, I guess).

I've seen one Lemmy bigbrain recently argue that even when artists are showing mafia or army to be terrible for people in them, they romanticize the mafia and army nonetheless, and that in general media glorifies its subject matter regardless of the author's intent. This schmuck would probably say with a straight face that ‘Helldivers’, or whatever this post is about, actually advocates for its model of utopia even if it pretends not to.

‘Harry Potter is antisemitic’

I kept reading it as poutine

I mean, they are Canadian.