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[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago

This isn't America.

But it is. And it's just getting started!

 

A short user story. Nothing new, but probably relatable to some.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

I've never seen anyone try to sell horror this way, far from enough for it to be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (20 children)

I wonder how the operator feels.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Or have kids to "bring them closer together"

I've seen it, and it's horrifying. Like throwing gas at a fire to see if it goes out, because it's not as though things could get worse if they're wrong.

I hope newer generations manage to ditch older, screwed up ideas of what marriage is and realize the value of having a beloved partner, rather than whatever the hell I see some older people treating their spouses as.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No need to apologize, I've been getting worse as of late.

Re: being from the US, it feels like maybe you think I am, or I implied you were. I'm not seeing the latter, so I'll use this comment to mention I'm not from there either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

One other place I've seen it used is autism communities when someone is describing their feelings about fitting in, or not.

I'd hope they're not using your version of it, then.

I feel like that terminology could be updated, over time. First alternative that comes to mind is neurotypical, which I last saw in a blog post about the struggles of an autist dealing with office politics and implicit expectations. Very relatable. Conveniently, it doesn't define a side as normal.

I feel like 4chan is a US-centric thing. And a niche one at that. So it's a very niche US-centric thing to assume about random strangers on the world wide web.

"Reeks of 4chan" doesn't mean I think you use it. Sorry if that's how it came across, as I don't think charitably of the site. To make a crappy analogy, if Mom and friends used a term that is also used by an infamous group, I wouldn't think, "Everyone uses it differently." I'd tell her, "Gee, ma, that's not the bestest word, how 'bout this one instead?"

And if she's like you,

Yeah honestly it's not that serious for me.

That's probably where the story would end, eh.

So it's a vague term, often used as an insult, shared with uncool people, that has alternatives... Sounds like more reason to drop it? I've said too much already, so I'm dropping the thread, thanks for the talk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what y'all don't seem to get is it's a way to other someone who othering you. to describe a person who hasnt been through it and lacks the experience and context to understand a joke or perspective or struggle.

Wow, I have so many questions. Who othered you, why must you other them, and why is that relevant here?

you sit here and say it "reeks of 4chan" like everyone who uses 4chan should be ashamed of it. You are othering an entire community.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize othering a group known for its toxicity and harmful effects on users and society was bad. Truly, those who've been shunned by all deserve a place to gather, and I'm glad 4chan is there to offer a home to the innocent racist/incel/transphobe and co.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bitch doesn't have the courage to step foot where he knows he'd get fucked. He'd rather use his money to destabilize it until they give him a red carpet welcome, which they very well might eventually, considering how the AfD is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

That's some lacking imagination you've got there, then.

To me 'normie' has always been a little bit of an insult on top of just describing the 'average person'.

When is this insult useful, though? In this post's context, talking about users one wishes would join their platform, insulting them isn't the most inviting of ideas. Can't help but laugh every time I see a fedi user say stuff like, "Why aren't normies coming to Mastodon? You gotta be stupid to think Bluesky is any better than Twitter."

"Normie" is for when you're describing people that clutch their pearls and their bible when a goth walks past.

I doubt your definition is the common interpretation. For any particular context, there are probably countless better ways to (insultingly) refer to people. Fascist fucks? Folks have been workshopping names since the 30s. Religious nuts? Ask an atheism community, they'll give you lists bigger than the goddamn bible.

Doesn't have the same vibes though.

It might be subjective, but I agree with OP: those vibes reek of 4chan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Surely, as he was in reality. I'll be paraphrasing this, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Strawman. You're implying that OP believes hate speech can't encroach on the freedom of others. Nothing in their post leads me to believe they think that.

From their post:

If someone wants to say there is a master race ... Sure: they're free to say it.

Tell me where discussions of a master race will lead, if not putting down the lesser races. Tell me how that doesn't affect their freedom. Tell me how that's not hate.

Many seem to agree on "Freedom of speech, as long it doesn't harm others' freedom," but too many don't understand what harm is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This feels like kicking the can down the road just to trip on it later, but I respect your effort and dedication, so do what you think is best, I wish you luck.

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