Hopefully some of that pent off energy is tempered after a week or two of 500+ comment China struggle sessions to establish where everyone stand
If we aren't isolated by then, I'm hoping that the liberals will realize that they actually need to come up with some substance in their criticisms instead of relying on silly redditisms
Overall yes I'd agree that the communists are winning, I like most of what Xi is doing personally and respect him far more than any other world leader.
At the same time the ideological discipline isn't there in the same way that it was during the Maoist period. Liberals and business owners are allowed to be party members. I don't think it's wise to give them such a foothold, but I don't know enough to comment much further or offer any useful criticism.
At the end of the day, I'd love to see the PRC introduce a worldwide expansion of socialist principles as much as anyone else here, although my hope is more cautious than other comrades here. As you say, the result speak for themselves, and they still have a couple decades of runway to dial in their targeting systems and fire off the communism button at the right time.
It's an odd thing to think, like I said there are many communists, but it's far from everyone, and the politics are not as straightforward as they are here on our site where we aren't actually in charge of anything.
Many academic Marxists comment on this, read Wang Hui as an example
Few people here think that the CPC is "genuinely dedicated to communism". It is a party with millions of members, including communists, liberals, nationalists, and others (happy to chat about the specific major factions in the party if you're interested). Many in the party are not ardent communists, and have mediocre to poor historical and political literacy from the perspective of a lot of the Marxist nerds on here.
Some people look at the party and see "hey they're called communists, and many of them are communists, sure as hell better than whatever is going on in the US or wherever" and kinda hop on board with some enthusiasm that way.
My bad for the lack of reading before replying
They will be locked up against their will, unfortunately (until a future society figures out something better)
They don't need to be forced to stamp license plates under socialism (prison abolition can't happen under capitalism ofc), but if work were available to them they could receive a fair wage. That would not be slavery, it would be imprisonment, i guess (did I contradict my original point? Idk Maybe, but I still see it as fundamentally different than how a "prison" is defined in the 2020s).
Also "prison abolition" doesn't need to be literal, it's just a goal to work towards over many generations. Is it even viable? Who knows, but it's not gonna get figured out during our lifetimes anyway. In the meantime, we can start to restructure our society in a way that will minimize the scale of prisons, and maybe our grandchildren will find a way to phase them out totally, but that's their problem.
In contrast to many others coming over from my instance, I'd say the outright "support" of the PRC is not really my thing, to say the least. My comrades won't admit this directly, but a lot of that energy is indeed contrarian-posting for funsies, although several are genuine.
That said, it is incredibly important to carefully analyze the country as a socialist, because for a minute there they were successful in overthrowing capitalism (kinda what we all want)!
Many good and bad things have happened since then under the leadership of the Communist Party. We should carefully analyze these decisions, particularly after analyzing the historical context in which they occurred. We also need to critically evaluate our sources of information, since I hope that we can acknowledge that Western powers have a vested interest in seeing the continuation of the capitalist system. If most of your sources are in English, they will generally be heavily slanted against the anti-capitalist movements.
I think that your way of calling the country "fascist" exposes that your analysis is incomplete. The Chinese government is, in fact, flawed, but why? Fascism means something very specific, and the flaws in the PRC are not the same as what you see in 1930s Italy and Germany. The historical contexts, and economic structures under which they operate are very different.
Been telling y'all the past couple weeks lol
Its polite to avoid using gendered language toward people you don't know, especially toward someone who has their preferred pronouns/gender clearly visible. Our instance also has a large representation of trans people who are often further made uncomfortable by gendered language, especially when it does not align with their identified gender.
I wish the title wasn't so clickbaity, since it sounds like they are trying to deny that there was violence at all, which would be out of touch with reality.
"I expected this place to be better the Reddit"
[Posts whining comment about everyone else's posts, instead of some sort of constructive discussion point, criticism, or question]
I guess some people just want it all done for them or something.
It could be abolished in the sense that the "location where we keep the most irredeemable people in society, who absolutely can not be left unsupervised" may not be a "prison", but some other secure facility that maximizes the ability of these people to make whatever contribution they may be able to make to society.
Browsing from a mobile app, I know exactly what they mean.
It gets exhausting to browse threads with all the emojis if they aren't the proper size. The gross-out factor of ppb compounds it all