sudneo

Nobody uses PGP because it's annoying, the tooling is not user friendly, it requires a lot of manual efforr for multi-device access and most people simply don't have the ability to manage keys safely. And that is why offloading all this effort to Proton (or similar providers like tuta) who does all the PGP stuff transparently is the only viable solution.

Oh no, he tagged trump (did he? Or did he reply to the tweet in which trump announced the antitrust pick?). This 1 second action changes everything. I am glad we have already moved the goalpost. Why tagging trump would change the context of his message it's really a mystery to me.

Look, for me it's simple. He has expressed himself in a way that was easy to misinterpret. He clarified his thoughts, I judge him for his thoughts.

You want to judge him for what you think he meant? By no means, go ahead. Just don't pretend it's a fact, because it's literally an opinion. A legitimate one, but still an opinion. The fact is that he said something and clarified that he meant something. Whether he is sincere or not is an opinion, but it doesn't change the fact.

For the rest I don't care to convince you or anybody else, I don't care of Andy Yen either. What I do care is people damaging one of the very few tech companies out there that are positive exceptions to a shitty industry. I think this is way worse than a tweet - even if it praised republicans in a general sense.

Besides this, I also hate this aesthetic of purity. MacCartysm in modern sauce.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/m7hfhdh/

I will quote his own words:

Unfortunately that was misinterpreted. If you go back to the original tweet in question, it is clear from the context that that is about "little tech" vs "big tech

I know we are in the internet in 2025, and nobody has the right to clarify their opinion anymore, one strike and you are out, but still.

To me it was obvious from the context to be honest, without even needing his own explanation (that you call backpedaling because good faith is never assumed). But then again, I was not looking for reasons to be outraged.

It's hilarious though that reporting the authors own thoughts you call misinformation. Instead drawing your own conclusions that are explicitly denied by that person is supposedly objective. If there are no more rules of logic then everything goes.

Also this is not bootlicking, it's just a timid defense of rationality in the face of people building castles in the air.

You can if you use the bridge, which is not perfect but basically does the GPG encryption/decryption for you and exposes IMAP etc. (I think you can also do your own PGP encryption on top, not sure).

The supply chain issue you discuss is the same with any tool, with the exception that with proton you have an automated update system (I.e. every time the page loads js code), while with more traditional tooling you upgrade based on your choice (more or less). You are likely not checking the code in either case, but a malicious update could backdoor or bypass your encryption either way. Technically you can build the proton client yourself but anyway, this is just theoretical stuff, nobody does that.

Gmail + GPG is anyway worse, first of all from a UX perspective, where every device needs to be managed separately (GPG keys need to be available, you need to manage them, managing keys and keeping them secure is hard). Second, you will use GPG only with selected people of whom you have the key. With proton you will use it automatically for all Proton users at the very least and all proton users can use it with you automatically too.

Then there is the problem with metadata. They cannot be encrypted of course, and with gmail you are 100% sure they are using them to profile you and mine whatever data can be mined (e.g., who you talk to), while with proton you can reasonably be confident they don't.

I mean, "spin it", that's literally what the tweet said, in a response to a tweet (from trump, hence the tag) that announced that pick. He praised the pick and generalized on the fact that republicans are more likely than democrats to fight big tech. Good or wrong that's everything that was said and a perfectly legitimate opinion, even if I may disagree.

This also happened in December, not yesterday.

the Republicans are now the party of the small people

He didn't. He clearly meant small tech in that context, opposed to big tech\monopolies. Not only this is the only interpretation that makes sense, but he said this himself in a clarifying (personal) reddit comment.

"Tagging Trump" because it was an answer (quote? Not sure what is the xitter term) to the tweer where Trump announced the pick for antitrust.

I do disagree with the person you are answering to, he did praise republicans. He did in a very narrow context and for specific (although opinable) reasons and he praised Trump for having made that specific pick.

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is.

Or the year before again etc. It's their 7th edition. Apparently the memory of outraged netizens has a very short time window...

They do that every year. The 2024 was the 7th edition.

No, I can read sentences in context, and I learned that the world has 3 dismensions quite early. Maybe it was because I lived in a country with a public school system that works (more or less).

Anyway, a cult is a cult, and I feel I have nothing to gain from this interaction. Cya.

Expressing support for a specific person picked, in a specific and narrow context = being OK with etc...? Also, it's not his country either (like is not mine). As an external observer does it mean that if Trump will do anything (anything at all) that I agree with, even for the broken clock theory, I need to lobotomize myself and not say it, otherwise I am OK with a rapist insurrectionist grifter felon etc. etc.?

I don't need to try, I do, all the time. I use simplelogin aliases, as I said, which means I have passmail.net, simplelogin.com etc. emails. Trashmail is a disposable email address, which is already different. So far, I have never encountered a problem with a "privacy domain".

Again, I am not claiming that the problems don't exist, but that it's maybe few niche sites. And why wouldn't it be the case? Most orders require invoice data, which is personal data, or a shipping destination which is again personal. Why a seller would inherently care of the email address I use? Also anybody can create gmail accounts, so why proton would be different? It doesn't make any sense to me, and in fact I don't see this problem.

Can you maybe list a few sites for which proton addresses wouldn't work?