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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Guy uses "degenerates" straight and is complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 90% they're a cryptofash.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm too lazy to look through their comment history at the moment, but you're probably right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

You dont have to look far. Literally just this thread

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There’s a lot of weird hippie cults, including Charles Manson’s. If your hippieism leans towards the aesthetic then it’s perfectly compatible with fascism. Not to mention the weird Californian ideology that isn’t straight fascism but sure is authoritarian in its anti-authoritarianism.

Fascism is by definition syncretic. It eats whatever it finds and makes more of itself, with rigid power structures and might makes right logic. Every large enough movement can have a fascist version of itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.

Now it is 1984

Knock-knock at your front door

It's the suede denim secret police

They have come for your uncool niece!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Thank you for pointing this out, I was quite surprised it got this many upvotes.

[–] MindTraveller -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's no commies on Hexbear. MLs are socialists, not communists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] MindTraveller 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Marx defined communism as stateless. MLs want a state. They say they want to get rid of the state in the long term, but they have no ideas on how to achieve this and they support socialist states such as China. They actively degrade the ideas of anarchists who want to have a communist revolution. They say communist revolutions don't work, you need to have a socialist revolution instead. As anti-communists, they cannot be communists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As much as I I agree with you, this kind of definition isn't helping anyone to discuss on the common grounds. I can argue that "communist" states were state capitalist, but I'd still call the people actually thinking that communism is good, communists

[–] MindTraveller 1 points 6 months ago

They only say communism is good when they're trying to regain the credibility they lose by constantly attacking communism and simping for authoritarian socialist regimes which have absolutely zero plans to achieve communism. I don't think their actions are the actions of someone who really thinks communism is good.