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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This photo is like 5 years old.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't this from the popcorn lung scare?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the popcorn lung due to amateur vape producers mixing it with vitamin e oil?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yup, but the New York Times still runs disingenuous articles about it, to this day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I don't recall. That might have been the reason given, but I'm willing to bet tobacco lobbyist money was at least as big of a factor. Either way, I had managed to quit cigarettes and vapes by the time they banned them, so I didn't really pay it too much attention.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

A lot of big vape brands are owned by big tobacco companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Popcorn ling was a legit scary thing because nobody knew what was causing it in the vapes. If I'm not mistaken it turned out to be something to do with a food safe additive that either was or turned into vitamin E when heated and was not safe to inhale. It was the cheap unregulated vape juices that were using that additive and the young people who are over heating and over juicing their vapes to rip those huge clouds that were effected. It's just one more example of how important drug and food regulations are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There never was a popcorn lung outbreak in vapes. Lipid pneumonia is not popcorn lung. Freebase nicotine is water soluable so it's always been dissolved with glycol. THC is fat soluable so it was what was causing the lipid pneumonia. Popcorn lung is a very specific disease caused by diacetyl and I'm unaware of any cases of that in vapes, none the less an outbreak. There was never going to be a lipid pneumonia with nicotine though, because nicotine does not dissolve in oil and we use vegetable glycol as a thickener because of that.

Popcorn lung was largely a concern for DIY vapes in the early days that used food additives haphazardly to create flavors. The dangers of diacetyl were recognized quite early though and folks made sure they weren't using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I thought it might be, I used to work at the Navy Exchange about that long ago and remember taking that stuff off the shelf.