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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.

Figuring out which communities on which servers to subscribe to is way more important than figuring out which server to post from.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

no, it does matter, because of the "local" feed.

I am in favor of creating something intermediate between "local" and "global". For example, it should also show you a few posts of "neighboring" servers, but not so much from servers who are further removed.

But that effectively goes in the direction of creating a recommendation algorithm, which is a notoriously difficult topic, because everyone will complain about the results.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

To get to that point you have to have selected an instance and then learned how it all works so IMO that’s less of a barrier for entry than it is a barrier for use

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Is it though? No one waited around and avoided email because they weren't sure which provider to use. Just make an account and go... if you hear or see other features that you want, then move.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some instances filter which content comes through, which might concern some people. And email services offer different features these days, so people might assume the same of fediverse instances as long as we’re drawing that comparison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I can't see downvotes and a lemmy.world admin threatened banning me for my half of a sarcastic spat.

Instances definitely matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk I think the sign up phase could be simpler. A default instance and clear short documentation upon sign up would help. I say this not for me (nerd for 30 years) but just got my partner to switch and they were resistent due to the account creation process. Maybe it's just the extra dimensions of "picking an instance" but it is a thing and a blocker for engagement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

Feel free if you have any questions"

Why those two? https://sh.itjust.works/post/31492067/16218879

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're missing the point. My comment is about induced friction causing people to walk away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which default instance when LW is slow for some people in the US? https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751

And you can't recommend an American instance to Europeans as applicable laws are different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I'm sure there's technical things to consider here. I'd leave it to the app dev to work that out. The point being that removing that choice by default might yield more users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, I recently created a Pixelfed account and I definitely balked at the "pick and instance" step. When I joined lemmy (using connect) it didn't ask me to pick an instance to create an account with and eased me into the idea of the fediverse. As a reddit refugee that only left because of morals, I absolutely felt like a fish out of water but I persisted. Others don't wish to persist with something confusing or different. One one hand, that's fine with me, I don't want to share a platform with people like that anyway. On the other hand, if it's not at least a little popular and easy to swallow for new users, growth will be impacted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

they dont know it works like email tho, thats the initial hangup, also it already has issues like lemmyworld blocking piracy instances

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, but a ton of people got AOL and Prodigy email addresses at first because they got an email address with their account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do think apps should default to lemmee or shitjustworks and then have an option for more savvy user to pick something else in the corner rather than giving them the option to pick immediately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Jeroba would default to .ml because the devs also admin the instance.

[–] howrar 1 points 1 week ago

When it came to email, we didn't care about the system becoming too centralized. They were all run by large companies that had the resources to keep things running for a long time, so no need to consider how long your email will survive. Most people didn't even know they had options. If someone you know made an aol email, then you also made an aol email. The content you receive is exactly the same regardless of where you sign up. No need to think about who federates with who, or how the instance gets moderated. Email is email.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess I had practice from picking MMO servers all these years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Picking MMO servers, really? Which MMO is that? I'm genuinely asking - I've never played many MMOs, but every one that I've known has had a single persistent world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Then they're likely just auto-assigning you to a server, likely based on geographic proximity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That's how it's done with more recent ones, but older ones always had servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

WoW for instance

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

Feel free if you have any questions"

Why those two? https://lemmy.world/comment/14616442

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I slightly prefer mlem even tho its similar, arctic is the cleanest with the least issues displaying things imo, at least on iphone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The main appeal of Voyager is that it's available on both Android and iOS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

forsure that makes a lot of sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have a question.

How, if possible, can I log in to say, discuss.online above, with this account.

Or do I need to make a second account over there.

I am using the jerboa app at the moment if that helps.

Also, related, is there a way to just, use my Mastodon account, and drop this one completely?

[–] howrar 5 points 1 week ago

You can't log in from your lemmy.world account, but you can interact with it through lemmy.world as if you had an account there.

[–] DerisionConsulting 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How, if possible, can I log in to say, discuss.online above, with this account. Or do I need to make a second account over there.

You can view/comment/vote on all of the content there while logged into lemmy.world. As an example, you should be able to click this [email protected] and participate there. or [email protected].

Also, related, is there a way to just, use my Mastodon account, and drop this one completely?

I am not a fan of "microblogging", so I am not 100% certain. I have seen a lot of posts/comments from Mastodon on lemmy instances, they are the people using hashtags.

Kbin and Mbin are Lemmy-like systems that also hooks into microblogging much easier, so you might be able to do a one account thing there much easier.

Again, not certain because microblogging is not my jam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It seems you can't interact using Mastodon, but you can follow Lemmy with Mastodon. Mostly just wasn't sure because in some ways the Fediverse seems more connected and more into the idea of "follow everywhere", but also it seems like its not quite at "one account everywhere."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You can interact with Discuss.online communities clicking this kind of links: [email protected]

Another example: [email protected]

A community with a few guides: [email protected]

You can't use a Mastodon account to log in to a Lemmy instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the second part Reddit also have the same issue.

[–] howrar 3 points 1 week ago

Reddit has a recommendation algorithm to do most of that work for you.