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Dems Reportedly Angry That Progressives Are Pushing Them to Act Like an Opposition Party.
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We need a Democratic Tea Party movement very badly.
Unfortunately, I already know the people who would lead it would also never get past making the rules of who's included, what kind of tea we'll be using, and if it's ethically sourced, and if any members have any problematic tweets in their past, what particular brand of socialism everyone subscribes to, and of course, what we're actually demanding from the government.
Say what you want about the right, but their superficial, Ork-like focus on goals gets them moving. Too bad those goals are usually things like "Vote against our best interests as much as humanly possible."
edit: I love that half the comments below are people disagreeing about how we would organize it and what we would want and who we would include. I both despair and celebrate that I'm not someone who can just hear a single word like "woke" and just laser-focus on uniting with literal crocodiles to take it down. Identify our weaknesses people, stop trying to be smarter than the problem. The problem is stupid simple, we have wealthy elite stealing our lives and futures away and the right is enabling them. Full stop, we should be fucking marching locked-arm with people whom we've been told to abhor to fix this. Imagine if people became scared to associate with billionaires. Imagine if we all did something.
The tea party, however, turned out to be an entirely artificial astroturfed "movement" that got its funding from the Koch brothers. They only came to exist because they were deemed a potentially profitable investment to the one percent. Same goes for Kerry getting "swiftboated". It was always about money.
So they were class traitors who did it for nothing other than hoping to earn the Koch Brothers favor?
some were! The rest were useful idiots--just totally unwitting dupes who had no idea who they were REALLY working for. The groups that handled transportation and logistics took "donations" as "non-profit" organizations but the Koch brothers absolutely did appoint individuals to set it up on their behalf AND provided basically all of the funding. The organizers themselves or the people feeding instructions to them were either class traitors if they knew the resources were coming from one source OR they weren't even legitimate members of the working class in the first place but only pretended to be so as to blend in with their marks.
People forget that the "tea" in "tea party" stands for Taxed Enough Already
you need electoral reform so you can fuck the democrats right off
They will never let that happen, only state initiatives/props would work, and my state's governor vetoed a bill to enable cities and countries non-FPTP voting
I dont think we want to brand off anything related to tea. Lets call it the people's party.
Nah that name gives off Democratic People's Republic of Korea/People's Republic of China vibes.
you wish
The left won't big-tent: if you aren't perfect and addressing their issue du jour, well, good luck. I don't know how you make a progressive party if there is no ability to prioritize.
And by the way I get it, if I wasn't allowed to exist, I would sure as shit want my issue at the front of the line too.
The left will happily big-tent to a point, but we're not about to include people who directly attack the party platform, and we need to throw out those shits when we find them-- the liebermans, bidens, sinemas, and fettermans. We need to get back to having a party platform, which the current democratic party doesnt really. We also cant belly up to AIPACs udder like the other parties did or we'll be right back where we started.
I had such high hopes for Fetterman. He seemed like the closest thing to putting myself in the Senate. Every article I've seen about him since then just makes me a little more wrong. Still one hundred times better than Dr. OZ though, so no regrets, just disappointment.
I like to think Fetterman's stroke had something to do with neutering him. Whether or not that's the reason for his collaboration.
lol
Yeah I don't think that's as true as you'd like to think. It's not even about accepting outsiders, it's purely about agreeing what issue to tackle first. Seeems to me there's a really strong vibe of "I'm in if it's my issue" and protesting "what about my issue?!" when it's not. No concept of eating one bite at a time even though that's how the work gets done.
This might hold water if Democrats would quit working in the wrong direction on those issues while they're tackling one thing at a time.
Democrats supported genocide. Democrats ran anti-trans hate in their own ads. Democrats adopted Republican border policy.
Also, what one thing were they working on during this time?
They didn't. As I'm sure you know. The only unifying thing was "not trump" and "punish trump for doing loudly what others had done quietly".
But. What are D voters asking for? Is it any wonder the reps aren't unified if we aren't either? Of for and by the people doesn't really work if we all spend our days asking Lemmy how to avoid politics and watching ASMR videos. Or LETTING TRUMP GET INTO OFFICE because of protest no votes against genocide thinking you're some kind of fucking hero.
Everybody that allowed trump for any reason deserves to get a little bit fucked by the admin. We gotta do better, and this should make it clear to everyone that there. are. consequences.
And they either expected that to work or didn't care if it did.
They have made that clear. They want the Democrats to quit being useless. They want the Democrats to stop selling us all out under the pretext of being polite to people that want us dead in camps.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I feel like slow iteration has never worked. We've been stuck in the same politics for maybe 30 years. And the DNC dems seem like they arent interested in making anything better, just in winning. They barely bother to make a platform anymore. Its like an afterthought.
The only platform is "we follow the rules and the procedures" and that's all we got. I would love to see a full progressive agenda, but the first step is, in my opinion, getting money out of politics or it will take a long time to break Republican control and an even longer time to push out the neoliberal old guard on the left. Then you have to fight this fractionation problem. With no ranked choice, the same old neoliberal is probably going to win the primary between the women's rights advocate, the gay rights activist, the pro Palestine anti war ambassador, and so on. I'm also against slow iteration, and this is why it isn't working. You can't just say the equivalent opposite of "guns, Jesus, and trump!" (whatever that is) and win a progressive left race.