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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm - I'm new here and when I see pieces of shit who'd be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn't make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I'll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

people my grandfather killed in WWII

YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We know, it was a team effort.

There was also that broken Nazi/Soviet pact and all that carving up of other peoples countries though that was supposed to go the other way.

And look, another Nazi plot with the Russians.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone. The Soviets were one of the last to sign one, because they had spent the proceeding years trying to form an explicitly anti-Nazi pact with the capitalist nations, only to be rebuffed.

If Chamberlain had listened to Stalin, the war either wouldn't have happened, or it would have been over much more quickly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Everyone except America :)

(Which had segregation and was the inspiration for half of Nazi Germany's policies)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Everyone except America :)

Tends to happen when there's war happening in another continent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say that the bully countries never understand.

There was also a secret protocol to the pact, which was revealed only after Germany's defeat in 1945[101] although hints about its provisions had been leaked much earlier, so as to influence Lithuania.[102] According to the protocol, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland were divided into German and Soviet "spheres of influence".[101] In the north, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia were assigned to the Soviet sphere.[101] Poland was to be partitioned in the event of its "political rearrangement": the areas east of the PisaNarewVistula, and San rivers would go to the Soviet Union, and Germany would occupy the west.[101] Lithuania, which was adjacent to East Prussia, was assigned to the German sphere of influence, but a second secret protocol, agreed to in September 1939, reassigned Lithuania to the Soviet Union.[103] According to the protocol, Lithuania would be granted its historical capital, Vilniuswhich was part of Poland during the interwar period. Another clause stipulated that Germany would not interfere with the Soviet Union's actions towards Bessarabia, which was then part of Romania.[101] As a result, Bessarabia as well as the Northern Bukovina and Hertsa regions were occupied by the Soviets and integrated into the Soviet Union.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say

Please tell me what alternative there was for these "cut up countries". If the USSR hadn't established military presence in these countries, they'd just have been invaded by the Nazis. Maybe you expect the Soviet Union, after being ignored for a decade of mutual defense negotiations, to selflessly send its people to die for the countries that refused a military alliance? Like literally, what was the alternative here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What a bunch of bullshit. It was naked irredentism as Stalin conquered countries that had gained their independence from Russia during the Revolutions and you know it.

And they were damn well proven right to be mistrustful of Russian chauvinism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Many of these countries didn't "gain" their independence from "Russia", they were GRANTED independence by the Bolsheviks immediately after the November revolution. Really, look at Wikipedia's article on the independence of Finland. The first constitution of the Russian Socialist Federation of Soviet Republics clearly specified the right to unilateral secession and independence for all nations of the former Russian Empire.

Regardless of my or your opinions on the independence of these countries, you didn't answer the question: what was the alternative to Soviet military occupation for the Baltics and Poland? Tell us, what was the realistic alternative?