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I don't think I can conclude whether Labour's proposals on this matter will be good or not until I see some numbers, conveying how this will actually affect people. I think everyone understands that the country can't afford everything, but also of course people who can't work should be financially supported.
This article says that tightening the eligibility rules for PIP "could mean about 620,000 people lose £675 a month on average". That sounds like a lot. How much do they already get though? Maybe £675 a month is too much to lose. I guess I'll follow the news to see how this actually affects people.
They get £675 a month max. As low as £138
And please remember pip has nothing to do with work. Employed people can get it. It is designed to cover the extra costs disabled people face interacting with society as a whole. And dose not come even close to covering it for most. Transport alone has gone up way way past the amount covered. In the last few years taxis have more then doubled in cost.
I see, thanks for the info. Apparently Diane Abbott has suggested Labour should introduce a wealth tax instead of tightening rules around PIP. But maybe it's unlikely that the government will do this.
It's unlikely Starmer will do anything Diane Abbott suggests.
I can't see them introducing anything that would count as a wealth tax. Tory papers are to out to get them. And they care to much about voters/funders that read those papers. Current Labour just ain't gonna go that left wing. Honestly atm nor were they likely to win the election if they did.
And with FPTP I honestly cannot see any other party that stands a chance of winning doing so.
Its def worth writing to labour MPs complaining about the attack on the poor and disabled again. But we would need at least 100/25% of labour MPs to threaten the government over this. That will be hard but far from impossible. Its just some option less left then a outright wealth tax will be needed to sell it. Given the breakdown of parliment and the numbers of right of centre labour mps.
Especially because the modest tax rises in the last budget were greeted by universal screeching noises (and... don't seem to have really paid off).
I agree with the general sentiment you're all expressing, that Labour should bit the bullet and raise taxes. But the problem is, in doing that we actually are asking them to break a promise they made to the electorate.
The screeching noises are from the press which is owned by those who would be affected most .
You will note the press said much less about Rachel backing away from an another promise with regard to clamping down on non-doms.
I would go so far as to say most serious economists are calling for a wealth tax in some form or another, to support a healthy a prosperous society.
That screeching is less universal then the press would suggest.
A 0.1% drop after a 0.4% rise is the best actual data they have. So all the claims of collapsing economy are exaggerated predictions not facts. But gowd are the press trying to push it as fact.
The econ is on a prestige. But the cause was the huge borrowing and lack pf regulation on spending during covid. It has left the UK with huge wealth disparity added to an international loan market that is less trusting of UK finances. Meaning the cost of borrowing has risen compared to gdp. Making spending harder. Increased inflation would actually help the gov by making current debt cheaper but harm the poor.
But dispite the tory press. The increase in borrowing costs are directly related to tories time in power and increased borrowing.