politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
So he’s choosing WW3. If the US attacks Greenland, that is attacking Denmark which is attacking the EU, he’d start a war between allies in NATO. Denmark would cite article 5, it would be war between NATO countries and the US.
Hold your horses - NATO general secretary Mark Rütte has already said that he "wouldn't want to drag NATO into all this"... 🙄
The position of NATO general secretary is irrelevant, the actual treaty is irrelevant, in the end military action is always a political choice of member states.
The worrisome part of course is that Mark Rütte was leader of an EU country for 14 years. There are certain to be people loyal to the USA in EU politics and military after all those year of US alignment. Heck Russia has managed to buy a few EU politicians in a couple of decades.
On paper yes, but the reality is that the rest of NATO will likely not react when faced with the prospect of having to fight America. Remember that There are 3-5 more countries with more nuclear weapons than the British and French. USA, Russia, China, and possibly India/Pakistan. ... MAGA is playing footsies with Russia, NATO cant survive a war against Russia backed up by a hostile America. They'd call it a day and resign "leave europe alone or we'll launch the nukes". everyone outside of continental europe will be fucked, that means greenland, canada, mexico, etc.
any "war" would be clandestine. Conventionally, NATO sans US would be able to handle Russia, but US and Russia both attacking NATO, NATO loses that scenario 10 out of 10. Right now, NATO is fucked if push comes to shove.
While its been largely spent, Russia is in a war economy mode. they've already pulled the trigger and crossed the bridge on the whole "Sending hundreds of thousands to their deaths" step.
America has a huge arsenal of ammunition , weapon systems, and logistics ready for war on short notice.
NATO has neither of those things. They waited until Russia was already fully mobilized for war, and sat on their hands hoping Trump wasn't going to be the sociopath that he is, They waited this long to finally start making preparations for the possibility of full scale war. In short, they are several steps behind and if the game starts for real, they are at an extreme disadvantage,