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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    It would help more people to improve the installer for difficult-to-install software rather than creating an entire operating system around that software. Using the entire operating system as an installer is over the top

    [–] cyborganism 13 points 5 days ago

    You're both right

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Maybe a script or deployment tool config would suffice

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    You're re-inventing the Nix tool which is exactly a script that sets up all the programs and services you want to install

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Except no one really uses Nix outside of Nix OS. It is slow and complicated for little reason.

    Just use Ansible and an answers file

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Then how come we have more packages than the AUR?

    And don't say it's because we packaged Python and Haskell stuff since we have more non-unique packages too

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Maybe one you could just download and pipe to bash. /s

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    ansible-pull and kickstart was what I had in mind

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

    I figured, I was playing on the number of github repos with instructions for curl pipe bash combos.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

    Isn't it just that though?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Yeah I'm reading what they said and that kind of solution wouldn't be acceptable in any industry...

    Imagine if you wanted to add AC to your central heating system and they told you they need to add a second furnace in parallel to the one you already have because it's possible to add AC to your current setup, but it's very complicated to do so...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    If you improve the installer to the point it can install any combination of software together (including incompatible versions of deps) you end up with NixOS again

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

    Much like how crustaceans have repeatedly evolved into pseudo-crabs, Linux distros tend to evolve into pseudo-nix

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    Don't know the case for this - but there are absolutely cases where the merger is blocked for some reason, and why not just fix it yourself with a distro? It hurts nobody.