Banned is maybe too far, but why should we as a country allow people to have petty power over meaningless things their neighbors do? Could we ban HOAs from being included in house sales, and every time it's sold the new owners have to opt in?
For the most part, I'm wondering about this in the context of single family homes since for homes like condos, you could make the case that HOAs are useful for shared things like roofs and whatnot. Maybe limit mandatory HOA involvement to things like what's truly necessary and shared and not how tall your grass is?
I think I can offer some perspective as someone who works in the real estate industry and is on an HOA BOD.
Of the hundreds of clients I've worked with, only 1 ever wanted an HOA, because he didn't have one and it was awful. We're talking fences laid on the ground, grass several feet high, vehicles parked all over the front lawn, the entire yard front and back being used as a landfill, you name it.
HOAs are essentially the smallest form of government. The HOA carries the force of law. This also tends to attract the worst people for the job. Think about it; who's going to take time out of their day to volunteer on behalf of the community? People who want power over others.
People are petty as fuck. One person receives one citation and they become salty and begin seeking out and reporting every single violation they can find, which just makes it awful to live in.
That would completely invalidate the purpose of the HOA.
It's like "right to work" legislation that destroyed unions, but used to destroy HOAs. "Right to home" legislation.
Why should the fact some people a long time ago have away their power to a dubious political entity, permanently destroy the right to make your own house into a home. There has to be a way for people in a neighborhood to phase out of an HOA and a "Right to home" legislation could do it easily. If the HOA really is adding value to the neighborhood then they would easily be able to entice new homeowners to sign up!
Take your last sentence and replace hoa with union.
Yeah it didn't work so well for the unions
Exactly. We're using the same concept that destroyed unions power, but instead of doing it for evil we're using it to destroy HOAs
My opinion on destroying HOA is this it’s kind of stupid. If a person doesn’t wanna live in one then don’t live there. I’m notso sure I’d wanna live in one, but then I just choose not to live there. I’ll live somewhere else. There are a lot of houses for saleright now not in an HOA. Some were built 30 years ago some were built even before then and some are newer. Take your pic on which one you want. Yeah, there is HOA‘sin the area, but you don’t have to live in one. Live and let live. If they wanna live there, let them ,why feel the need destroy an HOA?
That's really not the case everywhere (and def not in my area). John Oliver talked about this a while back, before he had to talk about Trump every week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrizmAo17Os
Most new housing developments come with a HOA and have for decades. Unless you want to live in a rural shithole, which is another society destroying problem, then you have to deal with a HOA.
Yes, but the problem is that HOAs are forever. Just because I've group of people a long time ago agreed to make one EVERYONE who lives there FOREVER are bound to it. That is problematic.
So get the people who do live there to vote to end the hoa. If the majority wants it gone then it's gone. Easy solution.