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[–] [email protected] 207 points 1 day ago (17 children)

The experiences trans men and women have with misogyny will never not be fascinating to me. Like, for the first time ever we have this huge sample size of people who have experienced how their gender presentation affects how people interact with them, giving tangible proof of misogyny in action. And it can't just be swept aside with 'MaYbE tHe wOmEn JuSt miSuNDerStOoD' or 'mAYbe tHe mAN diDN't MeAn iT LiKE tHaT'. I mean idiots will still make idiot arguments but at least it chips away at them a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Religon is probably what initially does this to people's brains

Indoctrinating children into religious systems of arbitrary hierarchy gives little boys god complexes and makes little girls into property.

[–] Rentlar 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel bad for female-presenting people having experienced being treated worse than their male peers. I didn't grow up religious or anything, but I can sense where I could be perpetuating that hidden misogyny myself.

For example: In work and social life, I'll give my phone number away to people I meet. But I'm not interested in relationships, so I'm far less likely to give it to women, since I don't want to give anyone the impression I'm making romantic advances by doing that.

I'm pretty sure for men that aren't outright misogynist jerks or bullies, it's stuff like that where they feel as if they might be viewed as awkward providing professional favours to women when they wouldn't think twice about it for their male peers. That leads to those experiences that women find themselves unable to receive those opportunities to get ahead in their career, or aren't listened to, or have to advocate their position more when career advancement seems to fall more naturally to men.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

For example: In work and social life, I’ll give my phone number away to people I meet. But I’m not interested in relationships, so I’m far less likely to give it to women, since I don’t want to give anyone the impression I’m making romantic advances by doing that.

As someone who is relatively active in volunteering/local politics, I've been thinking about printing up some old-fashioned "calling cards" (like business cards, but not for a business). Maybe you could do the same, and seeing that giving out your contact info was such a routine habit of yours that you had a ready-made solution for it would stop women from getting the impression that you were leading them on?

...then again, maybe not. Hmm.

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