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Trans men are (or can be) biologically male. The best term to use for 'non-trans' men would be cisgender men. 'Biological' is the preferred term that bigots use to spread misinformation and insinuate that trans people aren't real, natural, or equal.
Someone else said it pretty well:
Respectfully, I'm not going to get into the linguistic gymnastics here. My meaning is clear.
I think the point that you seem to be missing is that your language is not respectful. Adding the word respectfully doesn’t change that. The other poster was offering constructive advice and the rationale. You’re just being wilfully ignorant at this point.
His language was very respectful. You're upset because he's not using the labels that the queer community has come up with to make normal people feel judged.
You guys are genuinely trying to control what people think at this point, and it's disgusting.
"Biological (insert gender here)" serves as a dogwhistle for a lot of organizations that actively push trans bigotry. It gives a fake impression of a scientific take on sex that really hasn't been embraced by the scientific community for about 50 years at this point.
They aren't telling you what to think here, they are alerting you to a tool that organized bigotry is using and giving potential tools to subvert it. Once you see "Biological man/woman" for what it actually is (non-scientfic false categorization) it really can't be unseen.
Also - Can we stop with the calls that people are trying to control what people think? It's pretty lame. There's nothing about this interaction that is trying to force you. All that's happening is you've denied that a certain school of thought is valid. You have stated your reasons why you think it's invalid and now people who have taken upthat school of thought are defending their position. That's just normal discourse.
Give you a hint. When people tell you "they are trying to control what people think" that's actually doing more to control people - because it's asking someone to take it on someone else's faith that there's nothing to be listened to rather than engaging with the arguement yourself.
Fuck off, transphobe, they clearly stated the issue is that the term is generally used by transphobe and not legit allies
No they're not, and you're a bigot, and it's actually disgusting
Well, anyone who doesn't use the terminology that you want them to is a transphobe in your mind.
Yes, they are. That's why they get so upset and try to censor anyone who disagrees with them.
Wrong. Bad idea to put words in someone's mouth, you look stupid doing it
You're the one who got upset and is trying to shy someone down, the person who originally raised the issue was civil and suggestive. Shocker you're too stupid to know the difference
Sorry, I have to ignore you now.
You will not stop until you get what you want, and I have better things to do with my time. Goodbye.
Yeah, run you coward
Do the world a favor and pull an Amanda Todd ASAP
No worries. I added plenty of context, so everyone knows my meaning and intent.
That's shitty. Just take the advice.
Thank you for your opinion. I hope you have a nice weekend.
That's also not a very nice thing to say.
You don't want to change your stance on your transphobic wording?