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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

we count ancient Greece as a democracy, don't we?

Last I checked, democracy didn't mean "fair," it ment that the leaders were voted into power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

we count ancient Greece as a democracy, don’t we?

In the same way we count the Wright Flyer as the first airplane, sure.

democracy didn’t mean “fair”

I have heard more than a few people discount the existence of democracies in US adversary states - such as Cuba and Venezuela and Russia - precisely on the grounds that their democracies aren't "fair".

Broadly speaking, "democracy but its a rigged election" is just dictatorship with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

By this standard, the US is still a democracy. Leaders are still voted into power and that isn't going to change.

Will they let everyone vote? Obviously not, but you seem to think it's democracy when only white men can vote so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not a good democracy, no. The fact that Trump is not following the rules suggests that it isn't a democracy at all, since we are voting for stick figures, not leaders. But he was elected fair and square, at least until we find evidence otherwise.

And again, "democracy" doesn't mean "good," or "fair" or "virtuous." We are none of those things right now, weather we are a democracy or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He didn't even get a majority. He got a plurality. 49.9%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

Yea. If we counted popular vote, rather than EC, that would not qualify him for president.

I'm not actually sure what happens if no candidate gets a majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I guess this means that Russia is a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm prepared to argue that fake voting doesn't count.