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Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

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[–] [email protected] 378 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Horseshit.

The current state of code generated by AI is sketchy at best. I often get plain wrong answers because the model tries to derive. It comes up with calls to functions and properties that just do not exist.

"You are right, I made a mistake. Here is a better answer." Continues to give wrong answers.

Apart from that, apps that are glued together from AI generated code are not maintainable at all. What if there is a bug somewhere and you so not comprehend what is actually happening? Ask AI to fix it? Yeah good luck with that.

I do use AI for simple questions, and it works fairly well for that, but this claim by MS is just marketing bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I do use AI for simple questions, and it works fairly well for that, but this claim by MS is just marketing bullshit.

This is my experience. It can be useful for simple things that used to be found with a web search before AI slop broke things. For example, I was having trouble getting a simple CGO program for a POC to communicate with the main Go process. This should have been solvable easily with documentation but the CGO docs are pretty bad and sample code was near impossible to find due to AI slop in the search results. GPT was able to provide the needed sample code to unblock me.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This ^

"20%-30% of code inside the company’s repositories"

Now, if they had said "20%-30% of code written in the past 6 months..." I might buy that.

The repositories are going to have all the current codebase, likely going back years now. AI generated code is barely viable at this point and really only pretty recently.

No way 1/3rd of all current codebase is AI.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even 20% of new code would be a stretch unless they count every first iteration of code written by AI that needs to be replaced by a human later because it was plain wrong.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they're counting the six iterations of code it gives me as I tell it what's wrong with each one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

20% of code = 20 lines of production code.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

"Please move all comments from in-line to the line above, and add a separator line"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

They mean new code, as per the article. And they mean code gen and IntelliSence

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They say that because they are selling it.

And yeah, my experience is the same. The most frustrating is when writing in a typed python, and it gives answers that are clearly incorrect, making up attributes that don't even exist etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

My brother said his superior asked him to use more AI auto complete so that they can brag to investors that X percent of the company’s code is written by AI. This told me everything about the current state of this bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

I didn’t RTA, but if they mean ALL code at MS, that just can’t be true. They have legacy stuff going back decades, beyond just their windows platform. There’s no way 30% of all their code is replaced or newly created by AI.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

"You are right, I made a mistake. Here is a better answer." Continues to give wrong answers

The exact same wrong answer. Co-Pilot is especially bad for that. I'm practically giving up using it outside of vs code because the actual copilot AI is dog shit stupid m

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"You are right, I made a mistake. Here is a better answer." Continues to give wrong answers.

To be fair, the AI's not wrong. It's probably better, but just a teeny tiny bit so.

Honestly, AI is like a genie - whatever you come up with he'll just butcher and misinterpret so you start questioning both your own sanity and the semantics of language. Good thing these genies have no wish limit, but bad thing that they murder rainforests while generating their non-sequitur replies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

"Auto complete generated 30% of characters"

Fixed it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would explain the constant barrage of system breaking bugs and RCE vulns

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Turns out they have been using AI for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Ah but it was nice for a minute imagining microsoft vibe coding windows...