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[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Those figures also assume all virgin materials for batteries. The reality is that as more batteries are built, they will reach a critical point where battery recycling is a major source of elements for new batteries. We're only just now coming to that point where there are 10+ year old EVs out there that have batteries that need to be recycled.

Also those studies all look at the super inefficient 3rd world exploitation of minerals and labor to get lithium. There are new techniques being developed out in the Salton Sea (desert in southern california) that extract lithium from ground water pumped in a closed loop. The expectation is that production technique alone will be enough for the entirety of the next few decades of American need. And that's a far, far more efficient technique.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

No doubt. I'm not anti electric vehicle or anything. Common sense says mass transit, robotic taxis/communal cars with low private ownership and all of it electric would be the ideal end goal.

You can easily make the argument that you should buy used electric when your current vehicle repair cost is beyond the value of it.